She has a habit of posting garbage not even remotely worth wasting time to read.
Quickly visited this thread again from a Google search. After my last post doing a quick glance, I find she's saying:
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Stoning was "corrected" by the Quran with lashing, despite that mainstream Islam doesn't say the punishment for fornication is stoning. It's saying the punishment for adultery, which is different, is stoning.
The Torah as well, says the punishment for ADULTERY is stoning. So Ayesha is in full support of the stonings that occur in places like Iran and other M.E. countries, given the tortured-to-death victim performed the act. Anyone who watches the Stoning of Soraya (2010 movie) will have a glimpse of Ayesha's motives.
i.e. Islam says fornication is what the Quran's talking about, because hey, there's technically no proof the Quranic word is "adultery" or includes adultery, but common sense and Quranic knowledge makes it clear to the rational person stoning (for...lol, sex outside marriage) is satanic and is a sin of epic proportions, that the only thing the Quran associates stoning with is pagan idol worship.
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The verse about Allah perfecting the creation, is somehow, miraculously not in contradiction to the practice of permanently cutting off erogenous protective flesh from a male's genitals (during infancy, strapped down and torturously circumcised by force, not being given the right to have a say in the matter when he's of age (not that they'd ever want it when they know the whole truth of it), nor an anesthetic to accompany the pain even) and having it altered in numerous adverse ways, permanently, for the rest of the boy's life (one way actually makes it desensitize constantly). Anyone who compares this to cutting hair and nails, which is almost as stupid as comparing it to removing sweat off your forehead (hint: hair and nails, just like bodily secretions are products of the actual body, produced constantly thus common sense says cutting nails is NOT a change or mutilation of the body). If that wasn't bad enough:
a) The threshold of pain delivered by circumcision is fantastically painful to the point hundreds of babies die every year in just America, from this $300-400 per 15 minutes ($12,000 - 1,600 per hour) practice (Satan's satanic incentive, other than making people believe false religious crap of course). This is not even including the more profitable, second part of this which is the low, satanic and disgusting sale of the foreskin for the manufacturing of beauty products or other surgeries and biomedical research. Either that or the baby enters a comatose state (meaning so much pain they pass out). That or they're screaming at such a disturbing level as in the following:
http://vimeo.com/22940047 (skip to 2:40 if you have the gut)
b) Most of the male's ability to receive pleasure is gone, simply because the same type of nerve-laden tissue which gives the female pleasure from her external genitals is cut off - dissected from the body. The male thus has to make up for said loss of physical pleasure through unnatural means, be it more mental stimulation by getting the woman to do things she (in most cases) is not naturally comfortable with doing. If it wasn't obvious enough, studies have been done showing circumcised men obsess more about various sexual positions as well as sexual practices, esp. oral sex. All of this is more than replaced with a foreskin (read: it is a lot more rare for intact men to have these perversions), which Allah puts on every male and thus eases the sex lives, speaking in the general sense w/ common sense hygiene. If you're a man/woman thinking circumcised males improve or has improved your sex life, just know a great portion of men in Egypt and African countries find their sex lives enhanced when the female has been circumcised and many Egyptian women don't mind their circumcisions while many circumcised men mind their's.
Not surprisingly, circumcision seems more linked to violent tendencies later in life as just about all serial killers, rapists and violence inflicters in America were circumcised. No need to get into the Middle East obviously as we know the aggressive, controlling and mentally obsessed with sex nature of the men it has. Seems legit considering the violence and mutilation that is circ. It is even arguable that this falls in the category of Satan's promise even more since it's not just the physical aspect, but the mental warping of the individual it has later as just described. America also has an alarmingly high rate of divorce than say Europe, which has a 98% intact rate roughly. Once again, not surprising considering the sexual relationship info above, and you heard of the recent Sandy Hook shooting? Arguably the most horrific school shooting in history. Looking at the shooter's ethnic background info there's a very high chance he was circumcised (Jewish ancestry). Lovely.
3. The verses about Allah wishing us no hardship, and a life filled with pleasure and free of pain is in addition, quite miraculously not in contradiction with the above facts anyone can confirm on their own (10% of it was educated opinion, worst case scenario).
Some people are astronomically ignorant or so similar to brick walls that other, rational members don't waste their times dealing with. Ayesha's no exception, and I usually read through a person's posts fully when they're at least remotely sound.
There's a reason not one person here agreed with your crap, and it's because when they confirm the information in this post for themselves they'll see that routine male infant circumcision is blatantly against what the Quran preaches.
-Edit- And Allah wouldn't so senselessly say he perfected the creation, then turn around to command infant male genital amputation (since he obviously would want nothing save for his creation to BE perfect), unless your mind's stuffed with more bullshit than I imagined first conversing with you.
And that's exactly why the Jews believe the following:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_male_circumcision"To be born without a foreskin was regarded as the privilege of the most saintly of people, from Adam, 'who was made in the image of God,' and Moses to Zerubbabel (see Midrash Ab. R. N., ed. Schechter, p. 153; and Talmud, Sotah 12a). Uncircumcision being considered a blemish, circumcision was to remove it, and to render Abraham and his descendants "perfect" (Talmud Ned. 31b; Midrash Genesis Rabbah xlvi.)"
If you deny this part then you'll be the laughing stock of Free Minds.
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), and anyone thinks God intended that we do all these calculations? I don't think I'd do them if it earned me a stable salary.
