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General Issues / Questions / Re: God and Logic in Islam: The Caliphate of Reason - John Walbridge

« on: April 29, 2011, 02:43:00 AM »

I have been looking for in depth study on this topic.

The website that contains the link is unbelievable.  Many thanks.

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TRASH / Re: Study on Quranist, Quran alone, Quranites ect.

« on: April 22, 2011, 05:49:11 AM »

 AsSalaam,

@ admin:

wren's post above used "Quote from: UmAlawi on April 15, 2011, 09:30:00 AM" and put wren's info into it...very confusing (and misleading concerning UmAlawi)... no doubt a technical error.

Thank you ^_^

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Audio: Arabic-Only Quran--Not Recited But Read Normally

« on: April 16, 2011, 03:58:24 PM »

Peace y'all,

Someone on another forum mentioned just the idea (no plans) of doing podcasts (on Blog Talk Radio ?_?) of normally spoken/read Arabic Quran. I really look forward to it!  Until something like that surfaces online...

Here is a recitaion by Mohammed Siddiq Al-Minshawi, my favorite.  The link also provides torrent downloads.

http://www.mp3quran.net/eng/minsh_english.html

Smiles from Debbie ^_^

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Who will help build a Natural Republic ?

« on: April 08, 2011, 10:20:28 PM »

Peace Kurt,

I am so sympathetic to your situation.  As an American of British Isles/Lithuanian descent, I have zero cultural/religious/extant connections with my ancestors.  Really floating.  I tried to make something for my kids, but failed there. Still floating.

After reading all this thread's posts, I wonder about tribal attitudes.  I live in Montana, know Indians as friends, and attend Native American conferences at the University of Montana (which is set to be a leader in this area.)  The rez situation is so in need of inspiration and there is much searching.  At age 48 I found the Quran has my answers, so I am with you on the benefits and beauty of the muslim way and the fact that it really is peace.  

I have noticed that tribal rejuvenation, including close-to-original tribal spirituality, seems to be a primary concern with the Indians I have heard.  I'm sure you have looked at this idea a lot. Have you talked with others there about your plans? I wonder what they have said to you.

I went through a dream in my mind--of a wave of Indian people in all the reservations in the US knowing the peace of being muslim as shown by the Quran... living with maximum possibilities. May God Almighty and All Compassionate give you wisdom and patience for this work.  My hands are tied concering material help to you, but I will pray.

--Debbie

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Off-Topic / Re: THE MUSIC THREAD

« on: April 08, 2011, 04:54:10 AM »

ty shadow puppet --

I am a fan of "basalt" esp. for studying, put it on repeat... "Sutura Ignoramus" must be a play on words verbally and aurally? [sutura - an immovable joint (especially between the bones of the skull)]  lol, some brains are like that.

Glad to have it on my computer.

??location:
Great Plains
United States??

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Salat & Zakat (The Contact & Purification) / Re: Confused about salat? Get enrolled in the Free-Minds salat class....

« on: April 06, 2011, 06:22:53 AM »

Peace everyone,

The themes and concepts of the underlined words are full of expressive actions.
prayer, supplication, petition:  require humility and active request
oration: performance-style speech
eulogy: tribute to someone in speech or writing (remembering past good?)
benediction: asking for general good
commend, bless: say good about
honor, magnify:  an attitude/perspective as well as action
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To me the odd word is oration which is concerned with its own quality rather than the subject about which the words are spoken.  It is "just for show"—to please hearers and the orator himself. (May God forgive us.) Other words in the list above seem to imply at least sincerity.
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I  think the root saad-lam-waw is significant because it puts the doer in a perpetual subordinate position, paying attention to the one followed and if my personal conclusion is correct then it is a root that that also implies cause and effect.  (Maybe? I hope I did not go too far or force a meaning?)

Because as we bring forth, follow closely, walk/follow behind closely, remain attached --the effect is a state where our reaction to what we experience/witness is prayer, supplication, petition, (-oration), eulogy, benediction, commendation, blessing, honour, magnifiy.  (Positive)

So if existence is not a state of saad-lam-waw,  not establishing salat, the effect is a person ignorant of reality and without inspiration to respond in those ways.  (Negative)
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This study makes a lot of things clearer and I look forward to everyone’s posts.
--Debbie ^_^

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Study on Quranist, Quran alone, Quranites ect.

« on: April 02, 2011, 09:45:01 AM »

I hope you do well in your studies Jonas_dk.   Will you share your findings with us after a time?   


Male/ Female: female

Age: 51

Nationality: American

Parents background ( if different from nationality) : both American

Born as a Muslim? ( in a muslim family): no

Are you from a city or from the country?: city

How did you first come to learn about Quranism ( for a lack of a better word) ?  studying online

And at what age?: 48

Do you personaly know fellow Quranist or are you alone with your view in your social network?  alone

Do you primarily reject Hadith on the basis of authority or authenticity?  authenticity

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Hadith Discussions / Re: Sura 66 and hadith

« on: April 01, 2011, 07:31:28 AM »

You know it is obvious now that you told me, and I am sure smiling...but I would not have come up with that on my own.  I look forward to finding each of those.  I also would not have figured out that those are Muhammad's sahih hadith. ...I have heard that the "O you who believe" ayaat are something to look for too. Alhamdulillah.

So, that is what I was asking about learning in those posts above but I do not know what to call it...seems like about 8 years old is a good time to learn that stuff, lol.  @_@

Peace,

Debbie

P.S. Hey! maybe I am looking for a kid's book? 

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Audio: Arabic Quran--Not Recited But Read Normally

« on: April 01, 2011, 05:40:24 AM »

Peace savage_carrot,

I am looking for Arabic-only audio--(I re-named the thread.)  but yes, I love Mr. Hall like brother as I have listened to him for so many hours--at least the Malik translation he is reading has the word "Rabb" + a few others retained and it is all-English so it flows.

ty ^_^

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Audio: Arabic-Only Quran--Not Recited But Read Normally

« on: April 01, 2011, 04:41:16 AM »

AsSalaamu 'alaykum, peace everyone,

For those of us who treasure the Quran, for those who are learning Arabic I hope to find a reading of the Quran in Arabic only--even a few surahs! It is so difficult to learn or understand from recitations.

Anyone know of an existing recording of the Arabic Quran that is in a normal reading style?

If not, maybe there is someone who could devote a little time to this, an Arabic instructor on off-season, a retired person, or a stay at home parent.  I have searched unsuccessfully online a dozen hours, for surahs or for only lists of audio Quranic vocabulary.  Thankfully I found some wonderful programs to use in Arabic language study...

Thanks for time and thought @>-,-'--

--Debbie