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Introduce Yourself / Re: I am Salim Khan !

« on: May 04, 2013, 09:50:58 AM »

Welcome and Peace

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Sexual Consent

« on: May 04, 2013, 09:39:16 AM »

Thanks everyone for all your replies and insight.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Understanding the food laws (pronouncing God's name). *Need an answer urgently*

« on: April 21, 2013, 08:03:48 PM »

A couple posters have mentioned eating organic and the like as they feel like it fits the spirit of what Allah wants. I read a blog article making a similar argument, I thought I would share it:

http://www.hijabman.com/journal/halal-zabihah-organic-eat-local/

As for what exactly 'halal' means and never being able to be 100% sure about the meat I've basically given up on the idea of eating meat at all. It kind of depresses me but I want to do my best so that's the direction I have moved. I still plan on eating all seafood, eggs, and diary. So far I have stopped eating cow for the most part. I also try to eat organic and cruelty free when I can.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Sense and Sensibility In Islam

« on: April 21, 2013, 07:44:32 PM »

Thanks for sharing, will have to check it out...

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Is it okay not to list my faith on Facebook?

« on: April 21, 2013, 07:00:13 PM »

Ok this is strictly my opinion, but the way I see it is that if you choose not to disclose your religion on facebook that's just you being private about one aspect of your life. So I hardly see it as sinful. I think you should do what you feel is right in your heart, unless someone can specifically give a quranic response regarding this issue.

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Sexual Consent

« on: April 19, 2013, 10:09:51 PM »

Most ayas are addressed universally, to males and females, those who are addressed to men is because they need it more, they have more things to watch for in their behaviour. Like the mentruation thing, it is women who mentruate, so it is men who can bother women not the other way around, so they are told to not make intimations to women when that can bother them. It does not say that women should not make them. They are better judges of how they feel themselves. Is like the the 24.31 it is women who are told not to show off their adornments or beauty because it is them that are more prone to abuse physical appearance in social mores, precisely because of their usually subservient conditioning in society. Men arwe not told not to show off their beauty, rather not to show off their force.

As to consent, marriage is sex, consent to marriage is consent to sex, and must there must be consent to marriage and there must be consent to sex, because they are the same thing, and if there is the need for consent the first time it is engaged, why should not there be afterwaords, and precisely the aya of the tilth, where it says to send good works before approaching the woman, do you think that using force or using manipulation or using any other form of compulsion is to send good works?

Salaam

This makes a lot of sense. Would it be safe to say though from a strictly Quranic perspective that there is no such thing as rape within marriage?

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Sexual Consent

« on: April 07, 2013, 06:01:25 PM »

Why do you make two different issues of male consent and female consent?

I guess I was looking at it this way because from my understanding it seems like the Quran is more andro centric. It seems like there are more verses addressing men than women which I think I can understand given the context of the time period that the quran was revealed. Also seems like when concerning this issue men are the active ones while women are passive, they are the ones being acted upon. A couple examples would be the verse saying women are a tilth or the one regarding menstration. They're directed to men about women.

 Just some thoughts. I understand a majority of people get the whole consent thing. I'm just trying to develope an argument using the quran against those who say there is no rape in marriage which is something I disagree with completely.

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Sexual Consent

« on: April 04, 2013, 12:26:03 AM »

Salaam again,
I wanted to quickly thank all of you who responded thus far (will so a long response when logged on to my computer...). This question came about because I started reading Sexual Ethics and Islam by Kecia Ali and was wanting some more insight. Havin finished the book I didn't get this question answered (from the book) and got the feeling that female consent is not something I will find in the Quran either. This is disappointing to me will elaborate further later...

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Sexual Consent

« on: April 01, 2013, 12:06:14 AM »

Salaam,

I have heard over and over that in marriage a woman must sexually please her husband even if she doesn't want to. To me this is nonsense and I remember watching that short film Submission and they used verses from the quran and one was to show that rape was ok (this was from the filmmaker's pov). My question is, are there any verses in the quran that hint at or discuss sexual consent? Where does this idea of consent fit in? Any thoughts are much appreciated. Thanks.

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Hadith Discussions / Re: How can you pray without Hadith?

« on: March 10, 2013, 12:02:06 AM »

Just wanted to thank the OP and noshirk. I do not know why I never asked the question 'How do you pray WITH hadith?' This kind of opens my eyes a lot more. Long story short, I have some things going on in my life and this was just what I needed to read!