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Discuss Latest News/Events / Pulling gun on the opponent in a TV show !!!

« on: July 07, 2012, 11:22:44 AM »

Shalom Aleikhem,

I don't know if you have seen it already. A Jordanian MP gets too heated up in an exchange with a political activist on a TV show. He throws his shoe on his opponent, and just when I thought I have seen it all, he actually pulls a gun on him. Here is the link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Dc8GliNTE&feature=player_embedded

If you prefer general news media: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/jul/07/jordanian-mp-pulls-gun-tv-video?newsfeed=true

I didnt know that one is actually allowed to carry fire arms in person when they are in TV shows.

Peace
------------ Student of Allah

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General Issues / Questions / Unusual inspiration or motivation ?

« on: June 29, 2012, 07:08:22 AM »

Shalom Aleikhem everyone,

I would like to know if there is anything special or unusual that motivates you ? I am talking about Qur'an alone. Many people prefer to keep it to themselves, while there are others who actively discuss/write and share with others. For the ones that are active and will not give up, did you ever or do you ever find any unusual sources of motivation ?

This is for me :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gupqrEQI9dI

Believe it or not, I often see this video to charge up my batteries. God is my witness that I used to have this video saved in my desktop. I used to double click on the video and see it and soon my blood becomes like the boiling clouds in thunder. Soon my vision is blurred and my reality gets replaced with the narrative of the Pharoah and Moses. Its almost as if I am having a flash back where I am standing infront of Pharoah and hearing a heavenly voice commanding me " Cast your staff and destroy the oppressive lying mullah "


hehe, I know its strange, but I can't help it.

I would like to know about you guys, it helps if you share the unusual ones..lol.


Peace
------------ Student of Allah

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Pilgrimage (Hajj) / All Muslims shaving their head for hajj ?

« on: June 26, 2012, 07:13:03 PM »

Shalom aleikhem,

Long time back, in Free-minds, i asked about shaving head for hajj. It did not make sense to me to picture all muslims shaving their head like that. Anyways, these are 2 ayaats of consideration:

48:27 God has affirmed, that the vision of His messenger will come true: "You will enter the Restricted Temple, God willing, secure, with your heads shaven, and having shortened - no longer in fear." Thus, He knew what you did not know, and He has appointed before this a conquest near at hand.

Shortening head ? and why would i even fear ? What would I fear ? What has security got to do with head shave and head shortening ?

2:196 And complete the Pilgrimage and the visit for God. If you are prevented, then simply provide what offering is affordable; and do not shave your heads until the offering reaches its destination. Whoever among you is ill or has an affliction to his head, then he may redeem by fasting or giving a charity or a rite. If you are secure, then whoever goes to visit, but decides to continue until the Pilgrimage, he shall provide what offering is affordable; but for he who cannot find anything, then he must fast for three days during the Pilgrimage and seven when he returns; this will make a complete ten; this is for those whose family is not resident at the Restricted Temple. And be aware of God, and know that God is severe in retribution.

This time, the head shave is mentioned, without any reference to head shortening. And it is linked to "offering reaching destination".


Reflections from observation:

- Head shave and shortening are the same thing and is linked to "offering reaching destination" in one way or the other. (2:196)

- Head shave and shortening are also linked with sense of security after fear. (48:27)


Guesswork:
Something happens when we receive security after sense of fear (2:196), and that very thing should not happen until our duty is done (offering reaching destination 48:27)

My rationality does not warrant for me to understand that "something" as a "head shave and shorten".

What do you guys think ?


Peace
----------------- Student of Allah

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General Issues / Questions / Check out this poem about WOMEN

« on: June 26, 2012, 01:26:55 PM »

Shalom Aleikhem,

I came across this poem, apart from 2 lines I guess, I object to almost every single line. I found it in the facebook page titled "Young Muslims".

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Young-Muslims/139774652760475
THE BEAUTY OF A WOMAN
The beauty of a woman lies IN HER SILENCE rather than her speech
The beauty of a woman lies IN HER HIJAB rather than displaying her open hair
The beauty of a woman lies IN HER SUBMISSION rather that her leadership
The beauty of a woman lies IN HER SMILE rather than her laughter
The beauty of a woman lies IN HER PATIENCE rather than her inquisitiveness
The beauty of a woman lies IN HER ABODE rather than her adventure
The beauty of a woman lies IN UPBRINGING HER OFFSPRING rather than herself
The beauty of a woman lies IN HER EXPERIENCE rather than her age
The beauty of a woman lies IN HER HEART DEPTH rather than in skin deep
The beauty of a woman lies in her PERSPIRATION rather than her perfumes
The beauty of a woman lies in PLEASING her LORD because He is the creator of such a beautiful thing called “Woman”...!!!

To share with you guys my problem, I devised a distortion. I have this idea that oppressing the women is beautiful in their eyes. I am removing the sentences I thought was ok. Then, let us replace the words "a women" with "the oppressed". Here it is:

THE BEAUTY OF A WOMAN
The beauty of the oppressed lies IN HER SILENCE rather than her speech
The beauty of the oppressed lies IN HER HIJAB rather than displaying her open hair
The beauty of the oppressed lies IN HER SUBMISSION rather that her leadership
The beauty of the oppressed lies IN HER SMILE rather than her laughter
The beauty of the oppressed lies IN HER PATIENCE rather than her inquisitiveness
The beauty of the oppressed lies IN HER ABODE rather than her adventure
The beauty of the oppressed lies IN UPBRINGING HER OFFSPRING rather than herself
The beauty of the oppressed lies IN HER HEART DEPTH rather than in skin deep
The beauty of the oppressed lies in her PERSPIRATION rather than her perfumes

I don't know, may be I have taken it toooooo far. But I would like to know your views (on the original one). Would you agree if I say that the poetry mostly glorifies oppression ? Would you agree that for a women the poem is mostly suggesting that there is virtue in giving up all rights including the God given ones ?


Peace
----------- Student of Allah

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Free-Minds.Org / ProgressiveMuslims.Org / To the translators of Qur'an

« on: June 23, 2012, 03:42:39 AM »

Shalom Aleikhem,


This is for the translators of the Qur'an we find in this site (A monotheist translation). I was wondering if there is a way I can question their choice of words in translations ? I mean ofcourse I could, but , would I be getting any explanation for the choice of words in certain verses ?

Incase you are wondering, I would be questioning verses that are commonly associated with scientific claims. I would like to know how much of the translations are the translator making things up and how much of it is factual. Don't get me wrong, I do not doubt anyone's sincerity. It is just that I must verify as much as I possibly and potentially can. I am getting lost in the PRL So thought about posting it here. If the translators can find time, I would be so happy


Peace
-------------- Student of Allah

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Marriage & Divorce / Marriage VS Privacy

« on: June 22, 2012, 08:33:19 PM »

Shalom Aleikhem,

I had this little stupid question that I would like the married people here to answer. The non-married ones can contribute by sharing their views on the topic too.

Ok, so I was thinking to myself, what happens to your privacy after marriage ? How do you manage to think from a much wider perspective than just your own and sacrifice ? What I meant by that was, when you want to do something or buy something, how do you actually take into consideration, the opinion of your partner ? Does not that feel odd ?

My thought experiments with marriage tells me that it is like a rebirth of yourself. You have to change things and adapt.

Would you guys mind sharing your views ?

Peace
------------- Student of Allah

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Submitters / Code 19 / Submitters Perspective (missing newsletters)

« on: June 03, 2012, 02:39:31 PM »

Shalom Aleikhem,

I was reading about the submitter's perspective and their publishing of controversial and strange contents. I thought I may aswell verify what I am reading. The problem is, all of those controversial ones are missing in the collection of their website.

Can anyone help me find them ? Here is a link : http://www.masjidtucson.org/publications/books/sp/index.html

You will find gaps in archive. In some cases entire years are missing, and in others, newsletters for specific months are not in the archive. The funny thing is that the ones that I am looking for are the ones that are missing. Can anyone help ? plz plz plz...

Please share if you have a copy of at least :
- April 1990
- June 1990


Peace

----------------- Student of Allah

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Science / Evolution or Intelligent design ?

« on: May 31, 2012, 07:38:00 PM »

Shalom Aleikhem,

This thread is intended to discuss the theory of Evolution and Intelligent Design. Yes you can join in. It would be nice if you don't presume and assume based on hearsay prior to advocating for either theories.


Peace
---------- Student of Allah

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Science / Evidence for your faith/belief ?

« on: May 29, 2012, 08:09:37 PM »

Shalom Aleikhem,

The way I always saw it, faith and belief are not the same. Faith is a form of belief that depends on some form of evidence to justify itself.

I was wondering how the members of this website justify their belief/faith in Allah. You can write as much as you like, or as little as you like. Reasons can range from blind-faith to Code-29.... I just need to learn about your perceptions, views and justifications for your belief in Allah.

It can be subjective or objective.


Peace
------------- Student of Allah

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General Issues / Questions / Do you think its about time ?

« on: May 28, 2012, 01:17:43 AM »

Shalom Aleikhem,

I recently came across this youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ6XzDkS7oM&feature=related

These people are discussing if hadiths contradict the Qur'an or each other. This tells me that raising awareness and sharing knowledge and inviting others is working !! Praise due to God. Qur'an alone muslims are the minorities of the minorities... yet we managed to make them discuss this topic.

The bad news being, I remember seeing a video by sheikh Yusuf Estes. He was warning people about Qur'an alone believers with his own made up fantasized facts. By the way, he is so confused... he thinks we all are followers of Rashad Khalifa and Code 19.

I saw another video by Sheikh Feiz...oh God...this guy is the most severely demented anti-Quranist. Just to refute us, he distorts the Qur'an, misquotes, and not to mention, defends authenticity of hadiths using hadiths !!!

What are you thoughts ? How much change have you noticed in the islamic world (media) ? Would you agree that Islamic reformation is near ?

Peace
------------ Student of Allah