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Pilgrimage (Hajj) / How Many Pilgrimages Each Year?
« on: September 13, 2016, 09:18:50 PM »

I would like to raise a question that perhaps some here can help me with.

In the Quran, we are told that the Pilgrimage is "known months" (2:197).

We also know that in the year, there are 4-months that are "restricted" (9:36).

We also know that the Pilgrimage kicks off the 4-restricted months (9:3).

We also know that the first Pilgrimage is called "the greater pilgrimage" (9:3)

We also know that the Pilgrimage is linked to the "crescent moon" (2:189).

Base on the above, I would assume that there could be 4 pilgrimages per year, or even 8 pilgrimages (noting that each lunar month has 2 crescent moons - one at the beginning an one at the end). However, what throws me off is the statement of Moses where he is made to promise to stay in Mediyan for "8 pilgrimages" but is then told "if you stay for 10, then it is you choice" (28:27) - why did they use a multiple of 2 when speaking about the pilgrimage?

My question: Is it 2 pilgrimages (the greater Hajj an the lesser Hajj) each year? Or is it 4 pilgrimages, or is it 8 pilgrimages?

Science / Sun is in motion
« on: July 31, 2015, 09:45:12 PM »
i liked this video. It may not be 100% accurate, but it gives a better outlook on our solar system than the old textbooks.

Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Ramadhan = ?
« on: June 28, 2015, 02:06:50 PM »

This topis has been debated up and down, but I would like to re-ignite the discussions since we are in that time of year when the majority of Sunni/Shia are fasting and people who follow the Quran are inclined to rethink the topic everytime this happens.

There are a few schools of thought presented:

1. The Sunni/Shia rotating lunar calender which has the fast for the entire month;
2. The Summer/full moon school of thought which has a fast of 3-10 days or one full month (depending on interpretation);
3. The Winter fast which some (myself included) adhere to and which carries a fast of 10 days.

Here is the literal translation of the main verses:

2:183      O you who believe, fasting has been decreed for you as it was decreed for those before you, perhaps you may be righteous.

2:184      A few number of days. Whoever of you is ill or traveling, then the same number from different days; and as for those who can do so but with difficulty, they may redeem by feeding the needy. And whoever does good voluntarily, then it is better for him. And if you fast it is better for you if only you knew.

2:185      A month of scorching, in which the Qur’an was sent down, as a guide to the people and as clarifications of the guidance and the criterion. Whoever of you attests to the month shall fast it; and whoever is ill or traveling, then the same number from different days. God wants to bring you ease and not to bring you hardship; and so that you may complete the count, and magnify God for what He has guided you, that you may be thankful.

The view I have presented on this forum is that the fast is a "few number of days" and that this number is 10 based on the wording "complete the count". The complete count we are told elsewhere in 2:196 is 10.

The reasons I have gone with winter is the birth of Jesus which we are told occurred in the Summer (around August-September) when the dates are ripe in 19:25 as we know Jesus was conceived in the Night of Decree as the Angels and the Spirit came down to Maryam (an event which only happens in the Night of Decree) = December.

Also, if we consider that December 20/21 is the longest night of the year - then that falls in-line with the mercy of God being extended for the longest period to His servants during that night.

Finally, for any of you who have fasted in the Summer - you will know that there is great hardship if you work a normal day and don't just lay in an air conditioned room - a contrast from the fast of Winter and the rule that God does not want to bring us hardship (2:185).

General Issues / Questions / Bakka/Mecca
« on: December 15, 2014, 03:10:36 AM »

Just to share my understanding for the benefit of others.

I used to believe that Bakka and the Restricted Sanctuary were one in the same.

My understanding after much study is that they are two distinct locations.

Bakkah = Jerusalem (the site of the first sanctuary established for the people and the location of Abraham's test)

Restricted Temple/Restricted Sanctuary = Mecca (the site of the second temple and the location of Lot as well as many events mentioned in the Quran)

Mecca was destroyed by a meteor shower, from which the black stone of the Kaaba is taken.

The sanctuary/temple of Mecca was a stopping point for Pilgrims and is an acceptable site for making the animal sacrifice for those who cannot continue the journey.

Archeology & History / People of Noah
« on: April 28, 2014, 12:53:53 AM »

Just a thought. The calendar mentioned for Noah's people (1,000 years less 50 calendar years) teaches us that their year cycle was longer than a normal luni-solar year.

If we work out "x" in the equation: Time spent = 1,000- (50 * "x"), then the maximum number that can be used is "19".

Therefore, Noah spent 1,000 - 950 = 50 years amongst his people.

What is interesting is that the 19 year cycle, known also as the "Metonic Cycle", is a perfect mathematical fit of the lunar and solar cycles (the new moon comes back to the same solar day every 19 years).

I would also add that, the description of Noah's peoples gods describes a Sphinx (Lion, Steed, and Eagle).

Using the above data should help archeology pinpoint some of the remnants of this lost civilization.

My own view is that the Great Sphinx and the Pyramids of Giza - completely out of place and time for the Pharonic dynasty - are the remnants of this lost/drowned civilization.

General Issues / Questions / Articles
« on: February 01, 2014, 02:09:38 AM »

If you are aware of any articles dealing with Islam that belong on this site, kindly post the link or article to this thread.


Projects / Conferences / Events / North America Conference
« on: November 10, 2013, 11:06:47 PM »

Brother Zeshan is working on putting together a North American conference to bring together those who accept the Quran as their only source of law/guidance.

To establish Unity amongst the different movements and groups primarily Reformists, Modernists, Quranists, Progressive Muslims, and any other group organization that takes the book of Allah as their source of Peace and Guidance. To bring all the people off Facebook and off the message boards onto the ground to unite together in person.

I note that there are already plans for a conference in Canada for 2014 - perhaps the two efforts can be merged.


Free-Minds.Org / ProgressiveMuslims.Org / Quran Translation Name?
« on: October 11, 2012, 01:01:33 AM »

I would like to get some feedback.

The translation we have on this site is named "The Quran - A Monotheist Translation".

Once upon a time it was named "The Message - A Translation of the Glorious Quran".

Just by looking at the name, which is the more attentive to a casual glance?

Projects / Conferences / Events / Non Profit Organization
« on: June 25, 2012, 04:34:02 AM »

This subject was brought up on several other threads, but I thought I would raise it again for the sake of progression.

It would be beneficial to have a registered non-profit organization set-up either under the name "Monotheist Group" or "Free-Minds" (or any other name) that would act as the central hub for charity work and development of study groups and God Alone temples.

Can we start by identifying which are the best countries to concider to be the location for such a hub?

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