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Questions/Comments on the Quran / The Forgery of Significations
« on: March 28, 2013, 01:40:44 PM »
Peace,

As humans, we are unique amongst earthly creatures in our capacity to speak. The formulation of statements from a number of independent sounds proceeding from our mouths to express an idea conceived in the mind can only be described as miraculous.

These sounds are expressed by humans in reference to objects, or ideas, or events. These sounds only acquire meaning by the repetitive appellation of those sounds to the same objects, or ideas, or events.

We call these sounds “words.”

A listener will have to hear these words in use by people enough times, and in as many different situations, from which he can derive a firm idea of their meaning. I say “listener,” because language proceeds primarily from speech, secondarily from writing.

In human history, dictionaries are a relatively modern invention, which list the entire set of words that constitute any given language. They are particularly useful to foreign students of a given language if they haven’t had any first-hand experience with the people of that language. Indeed, their use, along with the rules of grammar, is a prerequisite for the correct understanding of that language.

In the science of linguistics, “words” are usually referred to as “signifiers,” and “meanings” are usually referred to as “significations.”

Now comes my question, upon being presented with a text whose signifiers are, for the most part, unknown to the reader, would it behove that reader, in the objective pursuit of truth, to employ significations in the understanding of that text as were employed by those people who authored that text?

Or, would it behove that reader to forge significations of those signifiers as accords with his own personal fancies in order to acquire the intended significations of those people who authored that text?

I would argue the prior to be behoving.

The very fact that you, the reader, are reading this post and understanding it, is proof enough of my argument. The fact that you, the reader, are not seeking to invent new meanings for these words that I am using to write this post, proves that we must understand language as it exists at the time of its currency.

Brothers and sisters, we are not at liberty to invent meanings for words.

I have heard the arguments that zinā does not mean fornication, and that nisā’ does not mean women, and that salāh does not mean prayer. These arguments, in my view, are invalid. I will say the following about these arguments:

1. I accept that the meanings of words are liable to mutate. That is a most natural phenomenon of human speech, undoubtedly. However, we must use the Quran’s Arabic, from the Quran's time, to understand the Quran, not any other dialect or language. Example: at one point in history, the signifier “man” referred to any human being, male, or female. Later, around 1000 years ago, it became exclusive to males.

2. I also accept that the Quran uses old words in new ways to introduce new concepts, or perhaps to modify existing concepts; but this can only occur to such an extent that the new concept can still relate to its original signification. Example: “shirk” originally meant “apportionment.” However, the Quran uses it in such a way that it can lead us to understand the signification as “polytheism/idolisation.”

Naturally, all the above is just as applicable to syntax.

I truly apologise and seek pardon for the blatant rudimentary nature of my statements about language and its use, but the arguments that are in circulation in this forum, and, sadly, among other Quranists, with regard to the forgery of significations, are also invalid on such a rudimentary level.

For stress, we are not at liberty to invent meanings for Classical Arabic words to understand the Quran.

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / The use of "7attaa" in 2:221.
« on: June 23, 2011, 06:40:10 PM »
Use of the preposition "7attaa" in 2:221 implies that a male cannot contract a marriage with a mushrikah until she believes, and that a female cannot be contracted in marriage to a mushrik until he believes.

Note the key word: "until."

This implies that a relationship within Quranic confines can be formed with any person of any ideology, however, no contracting of marriage can take place until the mushrik, or mushrikah believes.

If this understanding is correct, then it bears advantages and disadvantages.

The advantage is that we, as a very small God alone community, don't need to be restricted in our choice of companion; we can choose partners from any walk of life so long as we don't finalise the marriage before the mushrik, or mushrikah believes.

The disadvantage is that if we get involved with someone who, after much discussion and debate, refuses to believe, then the marriage cannot take place and this ultimately leads to a great deal of heartache for both parties. Thus, time is wasted and emotions are bruised.

I would like to make 2 further points. The first is that the implications of the use of "7attaa" can be seen as an intentional introduction of flexibility on The Author's part; flexibility, that is, for the believers. The second is that when 2 people are in love, it can be argued that the hearts or minds are more liable to be in a state of acceptability, and as such, the belief in God alone is less likely to be rejected as the mushrik, or mushrikah, will empathise more with the truth on account of their partner.

Any thoughts?

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Discuss Latest News/Events / VOTE MAY 6!
« on: April 24, 2010, 08:22:33 PM »
Peace,

It's funny how politicians come running and groveling to the public at this time of the year.  The burden of governmental responsibility should be deemed so great as to be dreaded, not competed for.  In my view, this is indicative of a perverse political culture, or at least one which has lost its way. 

How can 3 major blocks in the House of Commons represent the diversity of 60 million people?  Can the British public be divided into 3 parts according to political allegiances?  Or does each person have their own take on policies and affairs?  Such a gross partitioning of the makeup of government can only lead, in my view, to gross misrepresentation.

Thus, in order for any given party to appeal to the massive ideological diversity of millions of people, we see the kind of manipulation from politicians for which they have become notoriously known.

Example, if an MP belonging to a major (or even minor) party is asked about something which the public have different opinions about, the MP will have to give an answer which does not address the question but is phrased such that his or her true position is not known for fear of losing popularity.

To be a politician is to be all things to all men, and I deem it likely - unfortunately - that a major concern of most MPs is the delight of being in power, whether or not they are faithful to their constituents has been seen to be of lesser concern, and so they vie for power.

Which is why I see very little point in voting for any of the major (or even minor) parties on May 6 because our desires and grievances will invariably be diluted by the time it reaches the Commons. 

That's why I encourage my family and friends to vote for independents, because they are wholly accountable to the people who elected them to power, and they are not subject to party Whips or superiors.  Independents are free to speak their minds, and free to vote with their consciences.  They won't be nearly as manipulative and disloyal as other MPs because they're beneath the people's feet, not floating far above them enjoying the security of a majority seat in Parliament.

Vote independent on May 6th.

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Off-Topic / Poetry
« on: November 10, 2009, 02:44:56 PM »

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Science / MO Theory
« on: November 01, 2009, 05:43:08 PM »
Peace,

This is a call to any chemists or physicists among us.

I would greatly appreciate it if anyone would care to shed light on the following:

In a molecule of methane, the carbon atom has four hybridised sp3 atomic orbitals, each of which overlap with the four 1s hydrogen atomic orbitals.  That much is clear.  However, I am curious as to the locality of the two 1s carbon electrons.  What "space" do they occupy?  What "shape" is their cloud?  And how do the four sp3 orbitals affect their behaviour?

The same can be asked of an O2 molecule.  What effect do the higher energy level electrons have on the lower energy level electrons?  Do they restrict their "movement"?  Do they confine them to a specific "space"?

The reason I ask this is because all the atomic/molecular models that I have seen depict the carbon, in a molecule of methane, as having four sp3 hybridised orbitals without accounting for the inner two 1s electrons.

I have already posted this query in a chemistry forum, but I thought I would post it here too.

I would greatly appreciate any help on this.

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Off-Topic / Nihon
« on: October 06, 2009, 03:22:02 PM »
Peace all,

A very interesting program was aired this Ramadan on a satellite TV station called MBC.

It's about Japanese culture; how they run their schools, public offices, public services, public transport, their work ethic, their strong sense of family values, social equality, the importance they put on working for the greater good, their technological advancement, etc etc.

Very interesting, check it out.

It's all in Arabic though.

http://shahed.mbc.net/mediamanager/?ee_category=15438

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Discuss Latest News/Events / Vote on June 4th!
« on: May 29, 2009, 04:19:39 PM »
Peace,

With the recent revelations about MPs expenses, more and more people are losing trust and confidence in MPs.  These revelations have served only to strengthen the mostly negative sentiments that people already have about politicians, as well as making them disillusioned with our current system of representation.

Democracy has become a mere ‘tag’ in the nomenclature of many governments, that’s because the people are not truly represented in government.  The real problem at the heart of British politics is the party system.  When the leadership of each party adopts a position on any given issue, it coerces its MPs to support its position and vote in favour of such a position to have it passed in the Commons.

Party Whips are charged with the responsibility of keeping MPs in check and ensuring that they adopt the government’s position, MPs usually cave in to this coercion even when such a position isn’t supported by the majority of his/her constituents.  Is this representation?

If MPs were not subject to this type of coercion, they would be at liberty to represent their constituents to the fullest, and as such, they would be more expressive.  MPs who are not aligned to any party are known as Independents, and they are not subject to a party hierarchy.  They are directly elected by their local community, thus they are wholly accountable to their constituents and are therefore much more effective in representation.

However, the current system of party representation is proving itself ineffective.

Who was there to represent the one million people who took to the streets of London in February 2003 in protest of the impending invasion of Iraq?  A survey conducted by YouGov (et al.) in the first quarter of 2003, indicated (from the sample questioned) that the majority of the British electorate were not in favour of an invasion (it also indicated that they would only have been in favour had the UK and US governments received legitimacy from the UN – which they didn’t). 

If the UK was a functioning democracy, the motion passed on the 18th March 2003 – which stated that the government “should use all means necessary to ensure the disarmament of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction” – would not have been voted through.  This motion committed thousands of British military personnel to an illegal invasion of Iraq.  Were the UK a functioning democracy, it would not have been sanctioned by the British people, and thus it would not have seen the light of day, and consequently, we would not have allied ourselves with the US administration on an illegal and immoral war, of which the Iraqi people are the worst affected, with one estimate ranging between 700,000-1,000,000 violent deaths since March 2003, not to mention the thousands of coalition lives lost.

Also, in regard to Palestinians - who are living in some of the most horrible, humiliating, and harsh conditions experienced by any people in the world - are being subject to the most abhorrent crimes which the state of Israel commits through building illegal settlements, indiscriminate targeting and detention of civilians, firing missiles into very heavily populated civilian areas, preventing the entry of emergency aid in the most desperate of times, hindering the flow of people across borders who are trying to make a living, and so on. These crimes are not met with the type of vociferous force by the US and UK governments that is used against, say, Zimbabwe, North Korea, or Iran.  Their assent is not a result of indifference or apathy, instead, it is born of mutual interests between the ruling elite of this country, the ruling elite of the US, and the state of Israel.

These are but a few examples of how the political classes in many "democratic" governments continually fail to represent the people who elected them to power.

Misrepresentation doesn’t only concern international affairs, but domestic ones too.  With independent MPs, the voices of the people would be heard with much less dilution and interference, this is because their representative would be free and unbound from the domineering nature of party politics to convey the grievances and desires of his/her constituents from a firm platform in the Commons.  Issues from street crime, education, the NHS, police patrols, council tax, to major issues like invasions of sovereign states, European integration, the allocation of development funds to Third World countries, etc. – we as a people will have more say in these issues only if our representatives were free to do just that; represent.

A general election might not be happening any time soon, but the EU elections for MEPs on the 4th June is our first chance to make a real change by voting for independent candidates who will take this struggle on to the European arena.

Vote for independent MPs who think with Free Minds, so that we, the people, live under a functioning democracy.

Visit the following website to find out who is standing in your region as an independent, www.juryteam.org


Usamah

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Science / Logic
« on: May 19, 2009, 05:42:26 PM »
Peace,

To anyone wishing to get familiar with thought and reasoning, as well as formal logic, I would strongly recommend Logic: Theoretical & Applied (D.L. Evans & W.S. Gamertsfelder, 1937).

Concise, effective, and very powerful. 

Only problem is, it was published over 70 years ago, so as you can imagine, it isn't widely available.  Best place to check is at a major library or even a national library.  I found it in my university library, so any students out there can check their uni library.


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General Issues / Questions / lamasaat bayaaniyyah
« on: May 06, 2009, 05:52:08 AM »
Does anyone else watch lamasaat bayaaniyyah?

It comes on Shaariqah TV twice a week.  If you don't have Arabic TV, then do a search for لمسات بيانية on google video.

Check it out, it's interesting.

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Peace all,

Dr Subhi's book entitled "The Quran: Enough as a Source of Islamic Legislation" is now available in English.  It can be downloaded from the link below.

The book is well structured and makes some very strong points. 

It makes for a very good read, I highly recommend it.


http://rapidshare.com/files/223930800/The_Quran_-_Enough_as_a_Source_of_Islamic_Legislation.html

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