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Questions / Comments on previous Scriptures (Torah - Psalms -Injeel) / Which book to read O.o

« on: August 13, 2011, 10:11:24 AM »

I am gettin ready for reading the Bible and the Torah...but for real...there is like 10+ books of both of them, which one is the more accurate or more authentic??

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Who is speaking along the Qur'an?God, prophets, Gin and Angels only? Must read

« on: August 12, 2011, 04:49:34 PM »

Lets take a look at these verse from suret el Shora:

حم
عسق
كَذَلِكَ يُوحِي إِلَيْكَ وَإِلَى الَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكَ اللَّهُ الْعَزِيزُ الْحَكِيمُ
لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الأَرْضِ وَهُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْعَظِيمُ
تَكَادُ السَّمَاوَاتُ يَتَفَطَّرْنَ مِن فَوْقِهِنَّ وَالْمَلائِكَةُ يُسَبِّحُونَ بِحَمْدِ رَبِّهِمْ وَيَسْتَغْفِرُونَ لِمَن فِي الأَرْضِ أَلا إِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْغَفُورُ الرَّحِيمُ
وَالَّذِينَ اتَّخَذُوا مِن دُونِهِ أَوْلِيَاءَ اللَّهُ حَفِيظٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَمَا أَنتَ عَلَيْهِم بِوَكِيلٍ
وَكَذَلِكَ أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ قُرْآنًا عَرَبِيًّا لِّتُنذِرَ أُمَّ الْقُرَى وَمَنْ حَوْلَهَا وَتُنذِرَ يَوْمَ الْجَمْعِ لا رَيْبَ فِيهِ فَرِيقٌ فِي الْجَنَّةِ وَفَرِيقٌ فِي السَّعِيرِ
وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ لَجَعَلَهُمْ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً وَلَكِن يُدْخِلُ مَن يَشَاءُ فِي رَحْمَتِهِ وَالظَّالِمُونَ مَا لَهُم مِّن وَلِيٍّ وَلا نَصِيرٍ
أَمِ اتَّخَذُوا مِن دُونِهِ أَوْلِيَاءَ فَاللَّهُ هُوَ الْوَلِيُّ وَهُوَ يُحْيِي الْمَوْتَى وَهُوَ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ
وَمَا اخْتَلَفْتُمْ فِيهِ مِن شَيْءٍ فَحُكْمُهُ إِلَى اللَّهِ ذَلِكُمُ اللَّهُ رَبِّي عَلَيْهِ تَوَكَّلْتُ وَإِلَيْهِ أُنِيبُ


1)Ha-Mim

2)'Ain. Sin. Qaf.

3)Like this you are being inspired and to to those before you Allah Exalted in Power Full of Wisdom

4)To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth: and He is Most High, Most Great.

5)The heavens are almost rent asunder from above them (by Him Glory): and the angels celebrate the Praises of their Lord, and pray for forgiveness for (all) beings on earth: Behold! Verily Allah is He, the Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

6)And those who take as protectors others besides Him,- Allah doth watch over them; and thou art not the disposer of their affairs.

7)Thus have We sent by inspiration to thee an Arabic Qur'an: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities and all around her,- and warn (them) of the Day of Assembly, of which there is no doubt: (when) some will be in the Garden, and some in the Blazing Fire.

8)If Allah had so willed, He could have made them a single people; but He admits whom He will to His Mercy; and the Wrong-doers will have no protector nor helper.

9)What! Have they taken (for worship) protectors besides Him? But it is Allah,- He is the Protector, and it is He Who gives life to the dead: It is He Who has power over all things,

10)Whatever it be wherein ye differ, the decision thereof is with Allah: such is Allah my Lord: In Him I trust, and to Him I turn.

Who is speaking? Isn't it supposed to be God? how come God tells you that Allah is his God??I reached an answer, no it isn't Mohamed speaking, in the Arabic Qur'an there is not the word [Say] or قل no, it is not there...this is not Mohamed, if so prove to me from the Qur'an...

Then there is someone else writing Ay at in the Qur'an other than god???

Let's take a look at the fatiha now:

1)In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
2)Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
3)Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
4)Master of the Day of Judgment.
5)Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.
6)Show us the straight way,
7)The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.

Isn't it clear that the same one/thing/unknown who had the right to write the ayat above in suret el shora is the same unknown thing/one/creature who is telling surret el fateha???he is praising God, and asking him to  show us (him and us) the right way?

Is God praising himself?? not God is teaching us how to ask him?? he said in another verse that he is close to us...then why would he do so twice???

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Quranic Divinity / Quran reading and writings.

« on: August 03, 2011, 08:04:57 PM »

So, there are 7 writings of the Quran which one do you take...and why? where is your prove?
If you believe in one w/o reason then my friend you fall in a Hadith...of the quran narrators.

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Fatal error (Quranites only)

« on: July 15, 2011, 07:21:02 PM »

If you believe that Human history and such speeches and stuff are not really considered in Quran.

How did you know that Mohamed is the prophet of Quran...it was never mentioned in the Quran...It was just mentioned he is a Prophet of a book...which book? There are many books...and same goes with Moses...he was given the book not the Torah...who told you these books are the torah and Quran, history? do you put history back in the quran now??

This is a serious issue.