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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Second Shahadah vs Actual Shahadah in the Quran

« on: April 11, 2013, 05:29:10 PM »

Greetings and peace, all 

This seems to be (more or less) a copy of the article formerly posted on FM.

http://www.underkastelse.org/Gud/shahada.html

May ALLAH see fit to Guide all seekers.

 

~Abdul-Hadi

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Second Shahadah vs Actual Shahadah in the Quran

« on: April 10, 2013, 10:52:59 PM »

Greetings and peace, all 

@supportpeacenotwar: There used to be an excellent article on the main page about Shahada. Some of the points brought up in the article included the following: one can't be a witness to something that has not been personally experienced, none other than ALLAH should be mentioned, that we are commanded to not make distinctions between the messengers (peace upon them all), and that ALLAH suffices as a witness.

28:44 And you were not on the western slope when We decreed the command to Moses. You were not a witness.

39:45 And when GOD alone is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter are filled with aversion; and when others are mentioned besides Him, they rejoice!

17:96 Say: "GOD suffices as a witness between me and you. He is Expert and Seer over His servants."

4:152 And those who believe in GOD and His messengers and do not make a distinction between any of them, We will give them their recompense. And GOD is Forgiving, Merciful.

Don't forget to search the forums for Shahada...there are plenty of discussions.

It can be argued that there are many "Shahada" in AQ.  Consider 2:131...

2:131When his Lord said to him: "Submit," he said: "I submit to the Lord of the worlds."

Why is this so especially meaningful?  Here's why!

2:130 And who would abandon the creed of Abraham except one who fools himself? We have selected him in this world, and in the Hereafter he is of the righteous.

ALLAH knows best.

 

~Abdul-Hadi

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Introduce Yourself / Re: American Soldier Still a Bit New to Islam

« on: April 10, 2013, 07:11:10 AM »

Greetings and peace, all 

@czmead: 

You aren't alone! There are many current and former military members on these forums that follow the Deen. 

I'm also in the US military (ARNG), and also accepted Islam after reading and carefully considering a reasonable interpretation of Al Qur'an (commonly abbreviated as AQ).  I happened to be in Afghanistan at the time, but that's another story.

The good thing about being muslim in the military is that a good person sets a good example to others, and is in a position to prevent abuses. There are plenty of opportunities afforded in the military to undertake positive acts, and to help other people. 

There will be people who have reservations about your faith, but many of these people will change their minds after you normally perform your duties.  Faith is a bridge in many places of the world, and will allow better dialogue with other people of faith.

Remember that it is disallowed to proselytize in uniform--and also that if you publicly reject hadith in many countries that you may be in special danger.  Chaplains and chaplain's assistants can and will help you solve problems if you talk with them on an as-needed basis.

Don't worry about the "haters"--be they here or anywhere else.   

Feel free to shoot me a PM anytime.

May ALLAH see fit to Guide all seekers.

 

~Abdul-Hadi

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General Issues / Questions / Re: The Lack of Science in Gay Debates

« on: February 13, 2013, 06:15:48 PM »

Greetings and Peace, all 

@Abdul-Hadi: Thank you for the link, I thought I'd found most of the debates on the topic here, but I guess I overlooked the title of that one. 

Also, I think the counter-argument in your post is a much cleaner and concise summary of the issues present. I have a tendency to ramble and go all over the place even when simplicity would be the much better option.

God willing, I hope I learn to get straight to the point with fewer words, too.

Aw shucks...<blush> thanks! 

The discussion seems to be a good one.  I study biology--but sociology is also interesting. 

Verbose? Eschew obfuscation!   

May ALLAH see fit to Guide all seekers.

 

~Abdul-Hadi

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General Issues / Questions / Re: The Lack of Science in Gay Debates

« on: February 13, 2013, 01:04:37 PM »

Greetings and Peace, all 

This HAS been discussed before...but no problem.

Counterargument to species eating their young:

2:26 GOD does not shy away from putting forth the example of a mosquito, or anything above it. As for those who believe, they know that it is the truth from their Lord. As for the rejecters, they say: "What does GOD intend with this example?" He strays many by it, and He guides many by it; but He only strays by it the wicked.

Wouldn't you know it? There are homosexual mosquitos!

Not only this but:

"... No species has been found in which homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist, with the exception of species that never have sex at all, such as sea urchins and aphis. Moreover, a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bisexual. For them, homosexuality is not an issue."

source: http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx

What does this example have to do with AQ? This:

2:164  Surely, in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the differences between the night and the day, and the ships that sail in the sea for the benefit of the people, and what GOD has sent down of water from the sky so He brings the earth back to life after it had died, and He sent forth from it every creature, and the dispatching of the winds and the clouds that have been designated between the earth and the sky are signs for a people who comprehend.

30:22 And from His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the difference of your tongues and your colors. In that are signs for the world.

There is also the matter of AQ 2:221.

2:221 And do not marry the female polytheists until they believe. For a believing female servant is better than a polytheist even if she attracts you. And do not marry the male polytheists until they believe. For a believing male servant is better than a polytheist even if he attracts you. Those invite to the Fire, while GOD is inviting to the Paradise and forgiveness by His consent. He clarifies His revelations for the people that they may remember.

Links to previous discussions:

http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9601872.msg269936#msg269936

Entire counterargument:

Acknowledge that AQ is not ridiculous.

Acknowledge that physical evidence is not ridiculous.

Refute that ALLAH created people differently, as is stated in AQ 30:22.

Refute that ALLAH gave us signs in nature, as is stated in AQ 2:26 and 2:164.

Refute that ALLAH created homosexual animals, as are found in nature.

Refute that AQ 29:29 lists reasons aside from male homosexuality that the people of Lot might have been destroyed.

Refute that the women among the people of Lot were innocent of male-male sex.

Refute that the women among the people of Lot were destroyed alongside the men among the people of Lot.

Refute that AQ 2:221 is addressed to males.

Refute that there is no compulsion in the deen, as is stated in AQ 2:256.

Refute that homosexuality is depicted in cave paintings that physically exist that have been dated to be around 12,000 years old.

Refute that homosexuality existed at least 5,000 years ago among humans in Mesopotamia, as is found among physical existing evidence.

Refute that the people of Lot were destroyed around 1953 BCE.

Refute that circa 3000 BCE is before 1953 BCE.

Refute that over a thousand years span the time between the recorded homosexual acts in Mesopotamia and the time that the people of Lot were destroyed.

Refute that AQ 7:80 refers to lewdness "such as none of the worlds had done before."

Acknowledge that no person alive was present among the people of Lot.

Refute that AQ 17:36 states not to uphold what one has no knowledge of.

Acknowledge that physical evidence can comprise knowledge.

Acknowledge that knowledge is better than conjecture.

Refute that AQ 10:59 and 16:116 state that it is wrong to forbid what ALLAH has not forbidden, that doing so is a lie, and that those who invent lies about ALLAH will not succeed.

There is also the "problem" of homosexuality being attraction towards the same sex--whether acted upon or not.

Homosexuality seems to be a non-issue, at least for the Deen.

ALLAH knows best.

 

~Abdul-Hadi

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Questions to all Quranists, about the Shahada

« on: February 04, 2013, 09:45:02 PM »

Greetings and Peace, all 

If one feels the need for a Shahada:

2:130 And who would abandon the creed of Abraham except one who fools himself? We have selected him in this world, and in the Hereafter he is of the righteous.

2:131 When his Lord said to him: "Submit," he said: "I submit to the Lord of the worlds."

There are some excellent articles on this topic on the main page.

ALLAH knows best.

 

~Abdul-Hadi

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What is the nature of God? / Re: Terribly Confused !!!!!!!!!!!!!

« on: December 26, 2012, 02:24:12 AM »

Greetings and Peace, all 

Peace Abdul Hadi

Thanks for your useful comments, thus Allah would surely show His signs  to that guy n order to give him a chance to attain salvation....btw what is your definition of salvation

Peace
Harun

Thanks! 

My take is that salvation is the promise of good and the end of harm--a move into better circumstances.

40:41 "And, O my people, why is it that I invite you to salvation, while you invite me to the Fire!"

May ALLAH see fit to Guide all seekers.

 

~Abdul-Hadi

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What is the nature of God? / Re: Terribly Confused !!!!!!!!!!!!!

« on: December 25, 2012, 08:16:59 PM »

Greetings and Peace, all 

Peace AliHuzaifa

I don't want to state it but...Shirk is an Unforgivable Sin and this guy Has commited it.....

Peace
Harun

Ah, only to die in the state of shirk without change.  Those who change for the better before their deathbed are not wasted, ISA. 

It seems that ALLAH tends to Guide good people especially to the Deen.  Who can say for sure what another person privately believes, and what will come to them later in life? 

ALLAH knows best.

 

~Abdul-Hadi

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: True Meanings of Jannah and Jahannam

« on: December 25, 2012, 08:10:32 PM »

Greetings and Peace, all 

Nothing is allegorical in Qur'aan.

Miscellany of Grand Qur'aan--Format and Organization

Salaam
This is semi-atheist statement, as you overrule and belittle Allah's clear statements, and I would call it blasphemous too unless you can show me from the book that your claims are true.
salaam

This is easily done and shall ISA be demonstrated beyond doubt.  The core of AQ is firm, no doubt; 3:7 states so.  However, AQ clearly contains examples and allegory (metaphor and simile) in some of the non-core Ayat.  Any single example proves the statement; here are a few examples (from among many) to offer as support/evidence:

13:35 The example of the Paradise which the righteous are promised, is that rivers flow beneath it, and its provisions are continuous as is its shade. Such is the abode of those who were righteous, while the abode of the rejecters is the Fire.
 
47:15 Is the example of the Paradise; that the righteous have been promised with rivers of pure water, and rivers of milk whose taste does not change, and rivers of wine that are delicious for the drinkers, and rivers of strained honey, and for them in it are all kinds of fruits, and a forgiveness from their Lord; like that of those who abide in the Fire, and are given to drink boiling water that cuts-up their intestines?

22:31 Monotheists to GOD, not setting up anything with Him. And whoever sets up partners with GOD, then it is as if he has fallen from the sky and the birds snatch him or the wind takes him to a place far off.

2:264 O you who believe, do not nullify your charities with insult and harm; like the one who spends his money in vanity to show off to the people, and he does not believe in GOD and the Last Day. His example is like a stone on which there is dust, then it is subjected to a heavy rain which leaves it bare. They cannot do anything with what they have earned; and GOD does not guide the rejecting people.

24:35 GOD is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The example of His light is like a niche within which there is a lamp, the lamp is encased in a glass, the glass is like a radiant planet, which is lit from a blessed olive tree that is neither of the east nor of the west, its oil nearly gives off light even if not touched by fire. Light upon light, GOD guides to His light whom He pleases. And GOD sets forth examples for the people, and GOD is aware of all things

ALLAH knows best.

 

~Abdul-Hadi

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Is Reading Novels Forbidden in Quran???

« on: December 25, 2012, 07:42:23 PM »

Greetings and Peace, all 

31:6 And from the people, there are those who will purchase a baseless narrative with which to mislead from the path of GOD without knowledge, and to make it a mockery. These will have a humiliating retribution.

Is this not referring to matters of the Deen?  Even if one wants to read hadith of any Prophet (peace upon them all) or Aesop's Fables or anything else, it would seem to be fine based on the best understanding--insofar as it is NOT impinging/influencing on the Deen. 

7:32 Say: "Who has made unlawful the nice things that GOD has brought forth for His servants and the good provisions?" Say: "They are meant for those who believe during this worldly life, and they will be exclusive for them on the Day of Resurrection." It is such that We explain the revelations for those who know.

Continue to enjoy the nice things and good provisions; if it isn't to your taste then abstain and find something that you do enjoy.

ALLAH knows best.

 

~Abdul-Hadi