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Salam / Peace,

Sorry for my delayed response.

The Monotheist Translation has been a work in progress for over 10 years now with constant amendments/improvements when errors or misinterpretations have been detected - I would ask that the rhetoric be toned down as we are servants of the Almighty until the day we die (God willing).
I have looked into the matter and the argument of the translation of 29:29 being inaccurate does hold water.

The word "sexually" and "highway robbery" are indeed in error.

I would amend to "You approach the males, and you sever the way, and you bring vice into your place." But the only response from his people was to say: "Bring us the retribution of God, if you are being truthful!

P.S. to show you how easy it is to make an error, you used the word "God" in your suggested translation which is not in the Arabic text.

General Issues / Questions / Re: Rest in peace James Foley
« on: August 22, 2014, 02:11:44 AM »
ISIS, like Alqadea before it, is more a Western creation than a Sunni one.

The US needs enemies to get public support for its military action - ISIS is the new reason to get back into Iraq and stop the liberation of the country at the hands of the ex-military, tribes, and baathists.

At the time of the Yazeedi media frenzy people were clamoring over each other for military action in Iraq 'to help the poor Yazeedies on mt Sinjar'. That US operations have expanded to attack areas liberated inside Ninveh and Tikrit does not seem to phase anyone - and, just in case support was getting soft, here is a Nick Berg style execution (including the same orange prison suit) showing the evil ISIS to ensure there will be no objection as the military operations expand further.

Lets pls always remember 49:6.

Archeology & History / Re: People of Noah
« on: April 30, 2014, 05:48:15 AM »

I am saying:

1 Sana = 365 days
1 Aam = Variable (it is whatever the people are using as a count for their calendar year)

My reasoning for the people of Noah was that, due to the numbers used, their "Aam" was a 19 year solar cycle.

Archeology & History / People of Noah
« on: April 28, 2014, 12:53:53 AM »

Just a thought. The calendar mentioned for Noah's people (1,000 years less 50 calendar years) teaches us that their year cycle was longer than a normal luni-solar year.

If we work out "x" in the equation: Time spent = 1,000- (50 * "x"), then the maximum number that can be used is "19".

Therefore, Noah spent 1,000 - 950 = 50 years amongst his people.

What is interesting is that the 19 year cycle, known also as the "Metonic Cycle", is a perfect mathematical fit of the lunar and solar cycles (the new moon comes back to the same solar day every 19 years).

I would also add that, the description of Noah's peoples gods describes a Sphinx (Lion, Steed, and Eagle).

Using the above data should help archeology pinpoint some of the remnants of this lost civilization.

My own view is that the Great Sphinx and the Pyramids of Giza - completely out of place and time for the Pharonic dynasty - are the remnants of this lost/drowned civilization.

General Issues / Questions / Articles
« on: February 01, 2014, 02:09:38 AM »

If you are aware of any articles dealing with Islam that belong on this site, kindly post the link or article to this thread.


Forum Suggestions / Re: Mobile site?
« on: November 12, 2013, 07:36:00 AM »

We are now up and running on Mobile devices  :bravo:


Projects / Conferences / Events / North America Conference
« on: November 10, 2013, 11:06:47 PM »

Brother Zeshan is working on putting together a North American conference to bring together those who accept the Quran as their only source of law/guidance.

To establish Unity amongst the different movements and groups primarily Reformists, Modernists, Quranists, Progressive Muslims, and any other group organization that takes the book of Allah as their source of Peace and Guidance. To bring all the people off Facebook and off the message boards onto the ground to unite together in person.

I note that there are already plans for a conference in Canada for 2014 - perhaps the two efforts can be merged.


Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Rome - Surat Ar- Rum
« on: April 30, 2013, 07:35:55 PM »
Salam Ajay,

As Pazuzu pointed out, the Quran was recorded without dialectic marks, so both readings are correct from a linguistic point of view.

As for why the majority read it as "defeated, then won", that is how they heard it was read and then they heard the story of Persia and Rome to explain the verses.

Simply reading the entire sequence of verses will give you the correct answer:
30:2 The Romans have "won/lost?".
30:3 At the lowest part on the earth. But after their "victory/loss?", they will be "defeated/victorious?".
30:4 In a few more years. The decision before and after is for God, and on that day the believers will rejoice.
30:5 With the victory of God. God gives victory to whom He wishes; He is the Noble, the Merciful.

The Quran is giving us the location of the first battle "lowest part on earth" (Dead Sea).

The Quran tells us that the believers will rejoice after the second battle (which will take place in 3-5 years).

The Quran tells us that this rejoicing of the believers is due to the "victory from God".

If we take the traditional Persians vs. Romans argument, both these people are pagans in the eyes of the Quran and both did declare war on Muslims. That believers rejoice for the victory of one pagan nation over another makes no sense whatsover. Moreso, that God would call this a victory from him is bizzare as God does not support any idol worshippers/blasphemers (which is what Christianity and the idolization of Jesus as the son of God is).

Now, if we go back to the verses and tie them in with what we know of Islamic history:

- Battle of Mutaa took place between the Muslims and the Romans near the area of the Dead Sea. Muslims were defeated and had to flee (many graves are marked in the area of Jordan for the fallen). Battle was lead by Zied - the Prophet's adopted son who was killed there.

- 3 years later, the Muslims lead an army against Rome and the battle of Yarmouk is fought in the area north of Jordan near the Golan Heights. 5 Roman legions are defeated  and Rome loses control of all of the Levant area giving the way to the liberation of Jerusalem and the taking of Damascus.


Submitters / Code 19 / Re: My 40 day Fast and why I was “missing”.
« on: April 20, 2013, 12:55:05 AM »
Dear Yousef,

I am quite concerned after reading your post.

Opening the Quran and looking for which verses shows up is far from what I would describe as "inspiration". You are allowing your subconsciousness to run wild with a glance at a book in a bookstore being read as a message to fast or take certain action...

When Zakaria prayed for a son, God responded by sending him angels to inform him of the decision and to instruct him that he should take a 3 day vow of silence. That is how God communicates - no ambiguity, not room for second guessing.

The only other communication I can recall is the inspiration that comes during sleep (never waking) in the form of dreams. But for that you have to have the talent to understand the message like Joseph did. And, as in the case of Abraham, if the message is not being understood, it kept getting sent over and over until he carried it out.


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