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General Issues / Questions / Re: I renounced my faith in the divinity of the Qur'an today

« on: August 13, 2012, 03:52:29 PM »

Piece @Gnosis,

I am replying to the part of your post which I colored red, to show that in the Bible Allah is in fact probably the variation of the same CONCEPT that is in the Qur'an!
Here you have it colored green and red in my post:


Genesis 1:1 [Samaritan Pentateuch]
בראשית ברא אלהים את השמים ואת הארץ׃
In the beginning Elohim created the heaven and the earth.

Gen 1:1 [Masoretic Text]
בְּרֵאשִׁית בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם וְאֵת הָאָֽרֶץ׃
In the beginning Elohim created the heaven and the earth.

Gen 1:1 [Targum Onkelos]
בֲקַדמִין בְרָא יְיָ יַת שְמַיָא וְיַת אַרְעָא׃
In the beginning YeYa created the heaven and the earth.

Gen 1:1 [Samaritan Targum]
בקמאותא טלמס אלהה ית שומיה וית ארעה׃
In the beginning Elaha created the heaven and the earth.

Gen 1:1 [Peshitta]
ܒܪܫܝܬ ܒܪܐ ܐܠܗܐ܂ ܝܬ ܫܡܝܐ ܘܝܬ ܐܪܥܐ܂
In the beginning Alaha created the heaven and the earth.

Gen 1:1 [Septuagint LXX]
Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἐποίησεν ὁ Θεὸς τὸν οὐρανὸν καὶ τὴν γῆν.
In the beginning God made the heaven and the earth.

Gen 1:1 [Aquila of Sinope]
Ἐν κεφαλαίῳ ἔκτισεν ὁ Θεὸς σὺν τὸν οὐρανὸν (καὶ) σὺν τὴν γῆν.
In principal God created the heaven and the earth.

* σὺν is literal translation of אֵת that should not be translated in English.

Gen 1:1 [Symmachus the Ebionite]
Ἐν ἀρχῇ…
In the beginning…

Gen 1:1 [Theodotion]
Ἐν ἀρχῇ…
In the beginning…

Gen 1:1 [Old Latin Bible (Vetus Latina)]
In principio fecit Deus coelum et terram.
In the beginning God made heaven, and earth.

* The Old Latin has fecit instead of creavit. This word is usually inscribed after the name of an artist or sculptor.

Gen 1:1 [Vulgate (Jerome)]
In principio creavit Deus caelum et terram.
In the beginning God created heaven, and earth.

* YeYa is Tanakh.info’s English transliteration of יְיָ which is an abbreviation for the  Tetragrammaton YHWH or Adonay. In the Targums, the name YHWH was replaced by two “yods” with a “waw” over them, thus יוי, which letters are equal in value to YHWH (10+6+10 = 10+5+6+5= 26).

Yes, what you poiunted out here is true the original text does say Elohim which can be tied to Allah, this is due to the story of Genesis coming from two different sources. The source from Genesis 1 is from the source that always refers to god as "Elohim" but the source from which Genesis 2 and the story of Adam, Eve and the garden comes from what they call the Yawhist source that always refers to god as YHWH. If you go back and reread the original text from the story of the garden you will see the other always calls god YHWH.

I wasn't necessarily referring to the semantics of YHWH/Allah though, I was more so referring to the concepts themselves and how they are understood from scripture. The understanding of YHWH and the understanding of Allah are two different concepts totally when broken down.

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I agree that self-knowledge is very important, but it is not all, and someone's inclination to Esoterism can be as precious as dangerous without an initiated Teacher.I apologize to @Faithful Jinn for a slight digression to the thread by my post.

I am interested on what you meant by the underlined.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Why is Abraham considered so great? wern't there others like him in the world?

« on: August 13, 2012, 02:54:58 PM »

Because Abraham was the very first man to make the shift in thinking from a "bicameral mind thinking" infected with falsehood and "mysticism" that was in use and practice before him, to the integrated and abstract way of thinking. Therefore, he was promised the holy offspring by G-d.

But to him hasn't been given the Torah because he disobeyed G-d and listened to a woman (Sarah) instead to G-d and had a son with a servant-maid who hadn't been intended or promised by G-d. Afterwards Jacob, Isaak and others also did not deserve to receive the Torah because of various mistakes they made. That's why Moses is the greatest of all mankind because he deserved to receive the Torah and G-d's Comandments, and he was the very first man to teach and proclaim the monotheism and started the slow process of civilizing the humankind.

Further read:
http://www.amazon.com/Origin-Consciousness-Breakdown-Bicameral-Mind/dp/0618057072
http://www.julianjaynes.org/bicameralmind.php

As-Salaam Alaikum,

The Qur'an does not mention ANY of the Prophets disobeying Allah, you shouldn't attribute falsehood to any of the Prophets (may the peace and blessings of Allah be on them all).

Abraham was also given scripture anyway, the Scrolls of Abraham that the Qur'an mentions.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: I renounced my faith in the divinity of the Qur'an today

« on: August 13, 2012, 02:33:12 PM »

As-Salaam Alaikum,

A bit more of my input on the subject:

In reality only two "religions" exist, and that's 1). Self Knowledge and 2). Spiritual Ignorance

Self Knowledge is Truth. To seek anywhere else for Truth (any other philosophy, religion, or way of life) other than Self Knowledge is only following conjecture. This is not a belief of mine, this I KNOW.

All the ancient scriptures and the Prophets that brought them, from Musa with the Torah, Krishna with the Gita, Buddha with his teachings, Isa with the Gospel, to Muhammad with the Qur'an (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon them all), when you read their uncorrupted teachings from the correct perspective they all teach about Self Knowledge. I can't stress Self Knowledge enough. It has nothing to do with religion, it has nothing to do with a wrathful sky deity, it's about the Oneness with ALL in existance and the understanding of this huge energy matrix we call reality and your place in it, as a microcosm within the macrocosm.

The problem is how people understand Allah and Islam. There are two huge distractions that lead people to the wrong understanding:

1. The Bible - I know many here like to defend the authencity of the Bible saying that the Qur'an confirms these scriptures but that's simply not true. The Bible is not the original Torah/Gospel the Qur'an refers to. The Bible is a Jesuit/Masonic spell book created purposely to enslave your mind and percieve the Creator as some wrathful sky deity. In reality, the Bible makes you submit to the demiurge. Since most people see the god of the Bible as being the same God of the Qur'an (which they are not), they view the concept of Allah with the same understanding they have of YHWH given in the Bible. This is the error. (The concept of Allah is the God of Abraham, not the concept of YHWH, and they are not the same). When you couple this with:

2. The Hadith - This only further adds to the confusion trying to have the proper understanding of Allah and Islam. Faithful Jinn I disagree that you should use the hadith as historical evidence for the hadith was also written by Jesuits/Masons. In the hadith they say the Prophet (pbuh) was white, when there is in fact clear real historical evidence that proves he was black. Not that the color of the Prophet (pbuh) matters in this discussion, I'm just pointing out to you that they aren't even reliable for historical proof. And of course everyone here already rejects them as being authorative on the deen.

Again, all the scriptures and their Prophets true teachings were about Self Knowledge. I will say this to you Faithful Jinn, I can tell by your post that you are sincere with wanting to walk the path of Truth, I support you on that and I say that to say this: The Qur'an is the best scripture you can use on your journey towards Truth simply because it is uncorrupted and the most current and relevant, but IT IS NOT NECESSARY. A man can find Allah/Truth without ever having to read the Qur'an for the eternal law and scripture is already written inside every persons heart. It is simply a map, a great map at that! Sure, you can start in Washington D.C. and make it to Los Angeles without every looking at a map, but if you were to use a map it'd be much easier to maybe avoid a lot of obstacles on your journey. Whether you choose to use a map on your journey or not matters not, what matters is just the fact that you're on the journey! It's when you stay still that you are in error (and in your case "staying still" would be accepted a "faith" just because it feels or sounds good or just blindly accepting something as truth).

I support you brother, I wish I could have a one on one discussion with you about things. My suggestion, study Egypt and ancient cultures. A wise man once said "words like god are Greek or Latin, so if you study Egypt, you'll see the truth written by the masters".

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Do you believe Noah lived for 950 years?

« on: August 08, 2012, 06:26:31 PM »

As-Salaam Alaikum,

Noah witnessed the sinking of Atlantis with the flood, that was millenia before what we even call "ancient history", a totally different age of man where one could easily live long life spans so yes I take it literally.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Evoking Ancestrial Spirits

« on: August 07, 2012, 05:00:57 PM »

Since the Qur'an is just the reiteration and the confirmation of the Torah, in the Torah it is clearly forbidden to get in contact with deceased people, and invoke dead spirits... (which shows that it is possible to do so), but it is forbidden by God and considered "haram"!

As-Salaam Alaikum,

The Qur'an is a confirmation of the orginal messages that came before which the present bible is not, so it can't be used as a reference for this question. Besides, the law of the Qur'an would supercede the old laws that's why I asked out of the Qur'an only.

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General Issues / Questions / Evoking Ancestrial Spirits

« on: August 07, 2012, 03:35:22 PM »

As-Salaam Alaikum,

I would like to know what would be the ruling (halal or haraam) on evoking ancestrial spirits in light of the Qur'an only. A few examples:

1. Evoking the spiritual presence of ancestors during a rites of passage ceromony.

2. Evoking ancestrial spirits during meditation for guidance or wisdom.

3. Contact and communication with jinn.

Thanks!

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General Issues / Questions / Re: I renounced my faith in the divinity of the Qur'an today

« on: August 04, 2012, 08:42:36 AM »

Well this first question is immaterial to me. Just because Muhammad could rhyme well and he had some palindromes is evidence of nothing. It's likely a mathematical probability in some languages that this happens occasionally in speech especially in a root based language like Arabic. This is no more evidence of divinity than a Dr. Seuss book.

As-Salaam Alaikum,

It's not so much that Muhammad (pbuh) could rhyme well and had many palindromes that makes the Qur'an fascinating, it's the fact that this occured while still giving a message that makes sense and fits a mathmatical formula (19), all this while it wasn't written down but recited. Do you understand how hard something like that is? Try it in English, a language you can understand and see how hard it is, then imagine doing it in Arabic which would be harder since certain Arabic words have multiple meanings, etc. The Qur'an is for sure not a product of the human mind, but was channeled to the Prophet's (pbuh) spirit. Do you know about channeling? If so, then you can imagine how the Qur'an was revealed, atleast this is what I personally know from the things I've studied.

First off the embryology in the Qur'an is speculated to have been plagiarized from greek philosophers like Aristotle and some greek guy named Galen. They had similar if not identical things to say on the Qur'an and they existed before Muhammad. So humans had this knowledge before the Qur'an existed. As for geology, oceanography, and astronomy what exactly does the Qur'an say that you find miraculous?

I believe the Qur'an has such vague claims about the natural universe that it could be re-interpreted in many ways to make sense with modern science but first I'll accept what specific claims you personally believe are miraculous.

I personally don't think that just because a book makes some vague and possibly correct scientific claims that it is from God. You underestimate the intelligence of ancient human civilizations. Even the ancient Egyptians who lived 3000 years before Muhammad were excellent in math and astronomy and humans have been using the stars to navigate since the dawn of civilization. I believe many of the claims in the Qur'an were either known at the time in history or directly plagiarized from another source or so vague that it could be correct.

But like I said which claims do you believe to be so miraculous and why exactly do you think the Qur'an is divine?

I would just like to point out that Plato and Aristotle learned all their knowledge from the Ancient Africans (Egyptians) in their spiritual mystery schools which both of these men were initates in, so I agree with you that the knowledge did exist, but it was only known by the initates, not the general populace. So if you want to throw words around like "plagerized", you would have to say the greeks plagerized from the Africans...but plagerizism really isn't the case, it's just knowledge and tradition that was passed down from one initate to the next. Muhammad (pbuh) himself was an initate, that is why the Qur'an contains this information. No other scripture during his time was talking about this knowledge, only the occult centers of learning had this knowledge.

If everybody is left alone to form his opinions based on self-knowledge, and mankind is alone on this planet to create opinions about soul, spirit and invisible things, then there is no god who gave any scripture?

As-Salaam Alaikum,

Sorry for the confusion, the way I worded my post may have caused misunderstanding of what I was saying. Yes, Allah does exist, but I was simply pointing out it's not in the way mainstream thought thinks. Allah is not a diety, but is rather a creative force that penitrates within and throughout creation (57:3) for sake of discussion I'll liken him to the Force from Star Wars except that unlike the Force in Star Wars, this Force is also concious of itself and it's creation. Also, this Force manifests it's Will through man who was created as it's image and caliph (2:30). This is why the angels were told to prostrate to Adam (pbuh), because Allah was within Adam (pbuh) (2:34, 50:16). So the proper understanding of Allah is that Allah is the Force that created and sustains existance and Allah's will is seated within the hearts of men.

With this understanding, you should be able to see that revelation of the Qur'an came as a result of deep meditation within the Prophet (pbuh) and not just a product of the Prophet's (pbuh) or another humans mind. The Gnostics called this sort of revelation "gnosis", hence the Qur'an itself is a book of gnosis. It came from the divine within, the Self. This is what I mean by Self Knowledge, Self Knowledge is knowledge of God and creation, because the Self is Allah. Don't confuse this with the false self (the Ego), but the true Self, which is divine and contains the Ruh of Allah. There's a saying that the Prophet (pbuh) himself said "He who knows his Self knows his Lord", and this is what is meant by that saying. Self Knowledge is the teachings of the Mystery Schools and it's initates, hence why in Ancient KMT (Egypt) outside the Temple of Luxor it is written "Man know thyself".

I highly recommend everyone to study the spiritual system of Ancient KMT's mystery schools along with Gnosticism in order to fully understand the reality of Allah and the truth of Islam, for I know for a fact that Islam based on the QUR'AN ALONE and not the Jesuit authored hadith is simply the Ancient traditions and knowledge of the initiates passed down. When you study these mystery systems and then reread the Qur'an, it will open up an entire universe of new understanding of the scriptures.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: I renounced my faith in the divinity of the Qur'an today

« on: August 01, 2012, 09:20:25 PM »

As-Salaam Alaikum,

My brother I read a few post and I don't think this has been brought up.

If you look at Islam and the Qur'an from a Self-Knowledge perspective I think things would start to make sense to you. Contrary to popular belief, Allah is not a sole anthropomorphic diety suspended somewhere. Scripture says Man was created in (but more correct as) the image of Allah, meaning you yourself are a divinity, an avatar of Allah. Allah works through man, not for man, Allah's Will is manifested through man. Everything in creation is in Islam, only man has choice.


With this understanding you can go back to the Qur'an and understand the true gnosis it really is with this new understanding. You are an eternal being, always existed and always will. Terms like heaven and hellfire are just mindstates, Iblis is your carnal desires, the shaytans are the oppressive people of the earth, etc.

I myself started as a Christian, then converted to Sunnism. After really learning about it I started to have serious doubts about Islam, but I still was intrigued by the Qur'an because of its proofs and evidences, both scientifically and philosphically as stated before, and spiritually may I add. I started to study other forms of Islam like the Nation of Islam and then from there the Nation of Gods and Earths (Five Percenters), while I was also studying Gnosticism and Ancient Egypt. While I do not identify or associate myself with those groups, one major thing I learned from the Five Percenters is Knowledge of Self. Once I grasped that concept, my view on Islam and the Qur'an became concrete, especially after learning about the forged hadith which both the NOI and NGE also teach.


Just thought I bring up something that didn't get brought up yet and might have you thinking. Regardless of your descision you'll be fine brother, no one is going to lose their soul. It's an eternity of soul progression, if we didn't get something right this go around, we'll be incarnated right back here again until we do. One love.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan, Sirius, And The Winter Solstice?

« on: July 23, 2012, 03:56:08 PM »

As-Salaam Alaikum,

An image from the same brother.

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General Issues / Questions / Ramadan, Sirius, And The Winter Solstice?

« on: July 19, 2012, 06:24:29 PM »

As-Salaam Alaikum,

One love to the ummah and Ramadan Kareem to those obeserving it. While on Facebook I had a fellow Muslim brother post an article up about the true timing of Ramadan and his explaination raised my interest enough to post it here on this site and get your opinions on if his science holds any weight or truth.

For a heads up, the author has an obvious bias towards Arabs, and his views do not reflect my own concerning that, the focus is on what he is saying about the timing of Ramadan.

"The Month of Ramadan in which is revealed in it the Qur'aan guidance for Man and the Clear proofs from the Guide and the Criterion for Judgment" Surah 2 Al baqarah ayah 185.
The marking of the 4 sacred periods and the 12 periods of calculation denotes the solar and sidereal calendars and 4 tropical shifts (seasons) made by the earth in its revolution due to its 23.5 degree inclination to the plane of its orbit. Simply put since the earth is 23.5 degrees tilted it causes seasons...4 of them and these seasons are celestial rhythms. They are time markers and markers for how celestial rhythms impact human consciousness and thus were given attention in order to give a divine prescription for society about how to behave in these shifts.
 The prohibition of the Nasi in Islam is very misunderstood. The early inscriptions in Yemen display both lunar and solar counts for the Asiatics Blacks of Arabia. The adding of a month (called Nasi) by early Muslims was actually an error based on a lack of understanding how the lunar tropical/solar and sidereal calendars operated together. The ayat of Surah 9 clearly depict the 4 seasons and 12 period tropical/solar year. The revelation of this verse was made to prohibit not only the Nasi (adding of a month to the lunar calendar). It is clearly made to harmonize the calendar system by introducing a clear indication of the tropical/solar via the discussion of the solstices and equinoxes which are called the 4 periods that are sacred 'hurum' (Minhaa aarba’at hurum. Dhaalika ad-deen al-qayeem) (HQ9:36).
 Surah 9:36
 •Inna addat ash-shuhoori inda Allah aathnaa ashara shahran fee kitaabi Allah yaum khalaqa as-samaawaati wa al-aard.
 • Minhaa aarba’at hurum. Dhaalika ad-deen al-qayeem. Falaa tazlimuu fee hinna aanfusakum. Wa qaatiluu al-mushrikeena
 • kaafat kamaa yuqaatiloonakum kaafaatin. Wa aa’lmoo anna Allah ma’a al-mutaqeena
 
•Surely the Calculation of Time Periods with Allah is Twelve Periods in Allah’s Record.
 • A period in which he creates the Heavens and the Earth. Of these four
 • are Sacred. This is the interpretation of the upright, so do not wrong your
 • souls in them. And make war with the polytheists in unity, as they will make war with
 • you in unity. And have full knowledge that Allah is present amongst those who keep
 • their spiritual obligations
 
The charting of this Sirius based sidereal calendar and tropical/solar calendar in the Quran is verified in Surah 53 and others 2, Surah 70, Surah 97, Surah 34, and many other Surahs. Specifically Surah 53 charts the start of Ramadan in the first verse when it states
 "By the Star when it sets"
 This star is Sirius, which is mentioned later directly in ayah 49.
 The verses that follow discuss Nabi Muhammad's receiving of the initial ayah of Qur'aan from Jabriyl and the vision of the lote tree (symbolizing the 'World Tree of Indigenous Tradition and sciences Celestial Magnetic Field aka Unified Field)
 The problem with those Muslims who have been deceived is the pale Arab embellishment of sighting new moons, which according to Surah 2:189 is for allegedly calculating Hajj NOT RAMADAN. We have via this small writing proved that new moons and a lunar calendar cannot be used for Ramadan’s calculation based on the ayat of Qur'aan. In reference to the Al Aahillati, which is translated as new moons...ill simply say I take the preliminary position that the translation of Aahillati as meaning new moons is false. The word for moon in this language is Qamar (See Surah 54-Al Qamar) and Al Aahillati is the root word Aahl, which means the family and lineage of the Nabi, or Hall, which is a negation. Ill leave the complete discussion for this point on the Aahillati for another writing as it is insignificant to verses discussing Ramadan as the Aahillati is not in those verses discussing Ramadan.
 It is true that Most Muslims do not follow Qur'aan, they follow the alleged scholars' interpretation only with NO SUPPORTING PROOFS and this body of non-Qur’aanic information invented by the pale Arabs is called HADITH. It is a fact that the Qur'aan condemns these hadith in several locations

Ramadan Facts 2012 - Stop Following the Arabs Lesson 2
 
Ramadan Begins in late November and Continues till the winter solstice- the 9th Month of the Luni-Solar Calendar of the Indigenous Muslims
 
Ramadan Time and Calendar Keeping
 Ramadan is the 9th month of a solar-tropical year of the original Islamic Calendar
 Proper Names & Order of Islamic Months Based on Solar Tropical Calendar
 1. Dhul-Hijjah ("The month of Hajj - this is the month of the annual pilgrimage Sacred Period 1 Vernal Equinox (Al Sayf or Spring)
 2. Rajab ("To postpone)
 3. Sha'ban ("The Branching")
 4. Rabia Awal Sacred Period 2 Summer Solstice or Qayz ("First fourth")
 5. Rabia Thani (Second Fourth)
 6. Shawwal ("To Rise")
 7. Originally Safar Al Awwal Muharram Sacred Period 3 Vernal Equinox or Rabi (Forbidden)
 8. Originally Safi Al- Akhar now Safar ("Yellow")
 9. Ramadan("Keen Sight" - this is the month of daytime fasting)
 10. Jumaada Awal ("First freeze")Shawwal Sacred period 4 Winter Solstice or Shita("To Rise")
 11. Jumaada Thani ("Second freeze")
 12. Dhul-Qi'dah (To Rest)

The actual words from the Qur’an state that time of the year for Ramadan was sighted by ‘the hawaa’ of a star, not by the sighting of the moon. This star is later mentioned as Al Shiraa, the Sirius star system. We have already provided an in depth discussion on the sidereal luni-solar calendar of our lineage and its use in the time of Muhammad. Muhammad was directed to the use of this sidereal calendar as it was the most ancient Astronomical calendar system devised by his lineage and it was this group of scientists who reimplemented this system via the advent of Islam and Muhammad. A solar-tropical aspect was reinstituted with four (4) seasons ( See Surah 9:36) (traditionally called by the Muhajirrin…spring=Al sayf, summer=Qayz, autumn=Rabi, winter=Al-Shita). Understanding the interface between the Manzil lunar-sidereal calendar and the Solar-Tropical calendar of four (4) seasons both advocated by the Authors of the Qur’an and how they interplayed is the key to understanding the origin of this calendar as specified in its associations with its earlier derivatives. Those sources are the so called Paris Codex of our Xi (Olmec Mayan) ancestors in America, the Ica Stone Calendar of this same American Xi (Amaru) lineage, and the general calendar keeping of the oldest lineage on Earth. What we will show from Glyphs, that prove based their geography, to be over 50,000 fifty-thousand years old (This 50K year time period is mentioned in Qur’an Surah 70 ayah 4) is that this calendar system and time of the year (Ramadan) is from a very old tradition initiating in America and spreading into Africa and Asia. It is also at the root of understanding this new Book that is the Umm-il Kitaab (Source Book), which we have expressed through a Cosmological system of 13 sign cards in 4 sets according to there Cosmological elements, which when mathematically formulated using a 13:20 tarot system make 91 spreads which can be used to ‘read’ anything and anyone. Every person, group, nation, event, planet, star, element etc… has a symbol and thus can be tracked and explained based on this calendar system. It is the oldest Spiritual System on Earth and it is with Us.
 The manzil system is accurately accounted for in the Qur’an in Surah 10 ayat 5. Its states,
(ayah 5)“ He is the One who made the Sun a light giving object and the Moon a reflecting light and measured for it (manaazil) stages so that you will know a count (‘adad) for the computing (al hisaab) of the year (al siniyna from root sana). And Allah created this only in truth, and he makes the verses clear for the knowledgable people.
 The manzils are 28 in number and come every 13 days. Essentially the Moon (Al Qamar) is stationed in one of these fixed stations based on sidereal science or using the fixed stars for measurement. After 7 periods of 13 days, the seasons are beginning to change. This seven periods of thirteen equals 91 days a season (4 of which make up the solar-tropical year-See Surah 9:36). This 91 number is also the number of Tzulkin Xi Tarot spreads needed to measure for prophetic sciences. I have found only 2 Books on earth that cite these spreads and have found no one except myself who can lay all 90 out from the what I call the Magnetic Book, spread by spread. According to the closed circles I have had discussion with, this science was apart of an ancient curriculum of sciences taught to these people call Al-Aanbiyaa (The Prophets or Governors). I would agree from using it.
 The use of the 12-month 4 season tropical year was used in conjunction with the lunar stellar 28 mansion 13 day manzil system to compute time. The erroneous discussion of the Nasi and intercalation of months amongst the pale Arabs-Aravs is a production of these pale Arabs (aravs) who are descendants of the Sassanians Lakmids Ghassinids Harranians and other groups of pale Arabs-Aravs who were nomadic Bedouins (Of Aryan Hindu origin). They have erroneously attempted to make additions of ignorance to our Indigenous Systems. Others are simply practicing intentional deception. It matters not for the time to know these things is present."