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Before I comment on the verse that you have quoted that does not apply to the subject at hand, why do you greet with this greeting  "Salaamun alayka,"

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al-amiyr

Salaamun alayka,

Why not?

Salaam,
Bender

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In the book, Al-Tirmidhi: Hadith 5991
Narrated by Talhah son of Malik
Allah's Messenger (S+) said, "One of the signs of the approach of the Last Hour will be the destruction of the Arabs."

continued inshaa ALLAAH

Salaamun alayka,

7:187 يَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ السَّاعَةِ أَيَّانَ مُرْسَاهَا ۖ قُلْ إِنَّمَا عِلْمُهَا عِندَ رَبِّي ۖ لَا يُجَلِّيهَا لِوَقْتِهَا إِلَّا هُوَ ۚ ثَقُلَتْ فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ ۚ لَا تَأْتِيكُمْ إِلَّا بَغْتَةً ۗ يَسْأَلُونَكَ كَأَنَّكَ حَفِيٌّ عَنْهَا ۖ قُلْ إِنَّمَا عِلْمُهَا عِندَ اللَّـهِ وَلَـٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ

Salaam,
Bender

[And if they commit lewdness, they say: "We found our fathers doing such, and Allah ordered us to it." Say: "God does not order immorality! Do you say about Allah what you do not know?"]

Wow guys thanks! Very interesting posts.

I had the same feelings as most of you. The funny thing is, in her contract he agreed to no polygamy. Guess it was his way around it? Who knows they got married after a week, so whatever. I just told her no way was this God's will to okay rape and or sexual relations without consent and marriage. I told her to me, right hand possession does not to mean "slave whom you can force sex on"  More of a form of protection and for those who could not be married in traditional ways, such as a freed slave speaking on her own authority, and not her family's. I did print out the articles from here and gave them to her to read and reflect.

Why was this so hard to explain to another?

Thanks again.. as always.

Salaamun alayki Christine,

I think this verse is enough for everyone who wants to justify shameless acts and directs this to Allah.

7:28 وَإِذَا فَعَلُوا فَاحِشَةً قَالُوا وَجَدْنَا عَلَيْهَا آبَاءَنَا وَاللَّـهُ أَمَرَنَا بِهَا ۗ قُلْ إِنَّ اللَّـهَ لَا يَأْمُرُ بِالْفَحْشَاءِ ۖ أَتَقُولُونَ عَلَى اللَّـهِ مَا لَا تَعْلَمُونَ
7:28 And if they commit lewdness, they say: "We found our fathers doing such, and Allah ordered us to it." Say: "God does not order immorality! Do you say about Allah what you do not know?"

Salaam,
Bender

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Peace be upon you

I am from South Africa and have just recently found out about this site, i have been following the traditional inherited Sunni (shafi) idea of what Islam is and have always felt somewhat unsure about why and the reasons why we do the things we do and must just accept and not question.

Since im a criminologist i need to find truth in everything i hear(thats just the way i am wired) I like doing my own research and not always NEVER accept hearsay.
Because of the clashes between Sunni and Shia I've kind of always said "Im just a muslim" when someone would ask me which Islam i follow.  And i've honestly always felt this way, that we should only follow the Quran but because nobody else in my family and community felt like this as well, it started making me feel like i was wrong. There's not that many Shia followers in my community either and also the Sunni's where im from treat them like the plague.

I've been reading up about what Shiism is about but im still not 100% sure since they also follow hearsay.

Anyway i'm glad to have found this forum and i have already learned so much. But i still have a lot of questions.

Peace to all

Salaamun alayka and welcome to the forum 

I think most of us here are criminologist, we try to destroy falsehood in every sort of way 

Salaam and may Allah bless you 
Bender

Peace everyone!

I'm so excited I found this group and other people that are like minded.

I've been a Muslim for about a year and a half now. I became a Muslim because I studied the miracles of the Quran and knew that there was no way that the Quran could have possibly be made by man. It wasn't an easy choice. I was at the high light of my life, was perfectly happy, and had everything I wanted in life.  I wasn't looking for a new religion and had made up my mind that it was okay to not know about anything. However what I was doing at that time was very wrong and against the Quran although at that time I didn't think it was. When I decided to become a muslim I knew that to me following the truth was more important to me then following my desires.

For a long time I followed the Sunni way because that was what I was being taught. However from the beginning I had my doubts about the Hadith. I felt that no matter how careful people try to be and how accurate they try to be they are still open for human error. I would get into discussions about the hadith searching for the accuracy. What I kept on finding however, is contradictions. For a long time I kept on following because it was what my husband followed and it felt nice to be on the same page. Although when people asked me what I was I would just say I was a Muslim. I didn't really want to identify myself with any sect even though I was following one.

One day I had a friend that told me about the hadith that said the Prophet (peace be upon all the prophets) had said not to follow the hadith. That launched me into research mode. What I found was undeniable evidence in the Quran that say over and over not to follow anything but the Quran and not to Judge by anything other than the Quran. That the Quran is perfect and complete.  Once again I'm faced with a choice between what is easy and the right thing to do. Even thought the hadith are very complicated it would be easier to keep following them and not change things between my husband and I and not go up against all my sunni friends. Although I know in my heart that is not something I can do. It's never been my character. No matter what the consequences I will always choose the right path over the easy one.

I just started this journey and I know change is going to be hard. But I'm willing to go at it because at least I can feel that I'm doing the right thing.

I'll finish off by saying ' I submit to God (Allah) alone, and there is no God but God'

Salaamun alayki Amina and welcome to the forum,

What I am learning now is that the right path is the most easy one 
But most of us, including myself, see it as a difficult way.
I believe when we reach the level of seeing and experiencing that the right way is indeed the most easy one, then we are inshaAllah on Huda Allah.

Salaam and may Allah bless you,
Bender

Well, since Azeez is being translated as Noble.
and Gracious is not suitable for Rahman.
RAHMAN can be Almighty or Omnipotent or All powerful.

Salaamun,

Al-3Aziz does not mean The Almighty or The Noble as per my current knowledge.
At the moment I am a little bit tired (=lazy) to write how I see it 
But inshaAllah if you study chapter 12 about Yusuf, you will inshaAllah learn the meaning of both Al-3Aziz and AlMalik with His help.

Salaam,
Bender

ps. welcome to the forum 

[Source:]

Peace,

From 3:26, it can be seen that control is given to anyone and taken away from anyone by The God at any time. 3:26 makes it clear that being one from the "malaika"/controllers is a status, not some kind of mythical creature flying around in a white robe with a halo over the head. Thus, the controllers can be any creature that The God gave this status to. As long as they obey The God, they remain in that status. If one of them chooses to disobey The God, as Iblis/"one who is stuck" did, then The God takes from him this status and he is no longer a controller.

Source: How Did It Come To This? (Part 2)


To understand SJD in 2:34 read 2:58.

2:34. And when We said to the controllers: "sjudu" to Adam "fasajadu", but Iblis (did it not). He refused and he was proud, and he was one of the unbelievers.

2:58. And when We said: Enter this city, then eat from it a plenteous (food) wherever you wish, and enter the gate "sujjadan", and say, forgiveness. We will forgive you your wrongs and give more to those who do good (to others).


Abdelilah

Salaamun alayka bro,

I heard you the first time already 

I think the biggest problem (at least for me) is to get rid of our preprogrammed image of malaika:


And our image of iblies:


As long as we see them like this we will not understand a thing.

Salaam,
Bender

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Peace,

And this user:
This quote is taken from a thread I'm sad . This quote was intended to mock me. Just because I said that people who enforce women to cover up fully are actually disrespecting women, doesn't mean that I support ultrafeminism and women going out half-naked. My main point was the people who enforce women to cover everything do so because they believe women are the cause of corruption. Yeah the Salafis.

The texts in maroon were originally from me but this user copied them and opposed them [and mocked me at the same time for sure]. This user was the one who started a thread "Clothing code for believing women" and is anti-feminism. I am really offended by this user.
Does being againsts Salafi forcing women to hide themselves in tent clothes also make me a bigot?

I hope I would never fall into agnosticism. Atheism? Never.

Regards,
Yuliana

Salaamun alayki,

I do not agree with you on member mmmm 

I might be wrong but I did not think mmmm was trying to mock you.
Everyone here has an opinion, when someone has a different opinion then yours, it does not mean that one is mocking you.

I also think there is nothing wrong with the topic "Clothing code for believing women" mmmm asked legitimate and very good questions.




Please do not take the next in a wrong way, I am NOT mocking you or someone else, and certainly NOT directed at you, it is general, I am just giving my opinion:
When one posts on a forum he/she must understand that in a forum there are different people with different views.
There are always people who will be against your view even in the most fundamental things.
So if someone hates discussing or takes everything personal or has a very high pride factor, then he/she should think twice before posting something, and they have to understand that other people have the same rights as him/her. So posting in a thread and saying, that you don't want to argue/discuss, is in my opinion favouring yourself above the others. If one does not want to discuss then start with yourself by not posting.
Again please do not take this as a personal attack to you, because this was not directed at you but to all, it is just how I see things.

Salaam,
Bender

ps. there is one more thing I like to highlight.
I believe that PM stands for "private/personal message".
This is again not directed at you diamantinehoneybunch, but for everyone including myself.
I am just using your thread to make my opinion clear, sorry for that!!!

[27:31,]

27:31,
لَّا تَعْلُوا عَلَيَّ وَأْتُونِي مُسْلِمِينَ

Do not consider yourselves above me and come to me as Muslims.

People of Sheba were worshiping the Sun. King Solomon who was a messenger of GOD sent them a letter and invited them to Islam becoming Muslims. That is what the verse means. Their queen was the first among them to accept Islam. See 27:44 below:

قَالَتۡ رَبِّ إِنِّى ظَلَمۡتُ نَفۡسِى وَأَسۡلَمۡتُ مَعَ سُلَيۡمَـٰنَ لِلَّهِ رَبِّ ٱلۡعَـٰلَمِينَ...

...She said, my Lord I did wrong myself and I become a Muslim alongside with Solomon to ALLAAH, Lord of the Universe.

Peace,
Khalil

Salaamun alayka,

RED: Who is this?

GREEN:  He did not say that   
Please try to understand the next verses to understand what he is asking them. And please notice that they did not understood it as the islam/moslim as how you understand it.
A- 27:33 قَالُوا نَحْنُ أُولُو قُوَّةٍ وَأُولُو بَأْسٍ شَدِيدٍ وَالْأَمْرُ إِلَيْكِ فَانظُرِي مَاذَا تَأْمُرِينَ
A- 27:34  قَالَتْ إِنَّ الْمُلُوكَ إِذَا دَخَلُوا قَرْيَةً أَفْسَدُوهَا وَجَعَلُوا أَعِزَّةَ أَهْلِهَا أَذِلَّةً ۖ وَكَذَٰلِكَ يَفْعَلُونَ

salaam,
Bender

When you capitalize or not translate the common noun "the god"/"allah" you are essentially saying that it is a meaningless label.

Peace,

Ayman

Salaamun alayka,

That is your understanding but it does not apply for me.
I capitalize the word Allah or whenever I refer to Him (if I do not forget), and I do not translate it (if I not forget).
That does not mean it is for me a meaningless label 

salaam,
Bender